FRESH ELECTIONS?

Do you believe that fresh elections is a key to resolving the crisis Kenya is experiencing at the moment?

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68 Responses to FRESH ELECTIONS?

  1. kiptoo arap sirorei says:

    never venture into this territory atleast for now.we need ODM in goverment not for jobs or positions but for greater leverage to push for comprehensive reforms in the ECK,judiciary,equal and fair representation of all communities in all sectors of our gov .specifically,security forces,intelligence bodies,serviceportfolios etc.those who are damn asleep dont see how much kikuyunized the system is.DOS,DCIO,NSIS,military,etc
    we need a new constitution before election,.we need anew chief justice who should be vetted,a new attoney general. we need new laws governing the way this important positions are run

    what makes you think we will not end up where we are now dump!nothing has changed to warrant this….it will still be frustrations…

    wake up and aggitate to be in and once in move with precision to achieve this goals

  2. karanja kamau says:

    KIPTOO ARAP…….
    With all due respect read the blogs from the cabinet stalement and you will realize your use of the word “kikuyunized’ no matter how well your post may be intentioned it’s in a bad state because you are putting the whole community as the evil doers and our ODM bloggers have agreed to take ethinicity out of our blogs.

  3. Railkamuodho says:

    Fresh everything,
    We need fresh everything in life. Fresh air, fresh ideas, fresh food, fresh body, fresh leaders, fresh elections etc. It is very hard to get everything fresh. I am just suprized that both ODM and PNU have no fresh leaders. Abu is proving as usual to be the acad emic activist full of speeches but nothing to back him. But I can see a fresh kind of leadership compared to his predcessor.
    The only consistent defenders of peoples freedom (not murderers) include, Paul Muite, Koigi Wamwere, Raila, Nyongo, Martin Shikuku, others are just tribal animals.

  4. tnk says:

    agent4change

    whats going on?

  5. faith says:

    Dear bloggers

    The fresh election issue can only arise if we have either of the two things happening;

    1.) If ODM and PNU can come to an amicable solution and divide govt structures as agreed in the national reconciliation accord then we can have an election in 2012 as usual OR

    2.) I f the impasse as being experienced right now persist then what we need is the overhaul of the electrol commission a new one put in place and within a year or two we should go back to the election to legitimise leadership i the country.

    @ Kiptoo

    though i understandas a person from central province that the govt appointments are skewed towards mt. Kenya region you will appreciate that there are also people from that area that have stuck with the ODM dream of a better equitable country and that dream should be kept alive at all cost.

  6. Jane says:

    Despite calls for change and fresh of everything by the Orange Democratic Movement, the movement could save the remaining credibility by STOPPING to destroy property and livelihoods, burn people’s homes and properties, maim and kill people, then blame it on others everytime there is a political issue in the country. That might tell the world that the movement’s followers have some sense of responsibility, and not just a band of hooligans.

    What level of reasoning would some movement’s followers have in burning people’s homes in Rift valley, subject them to living in tents, then start demanding that resettlement of these Kenyans be on condition that cabinet posts are announced.

    What level of reasoning in destroying a railway line?. To eat the metal or? Supposing some wagons transporting fertilizer to north rift derails. Would the farmers there blame the government?

    The over 20million Kenyans who do not care party affiliations, some too young, others unwell and all they care is their health, need peace, not destruction and destabilisation of their country by some destructive elements.

    On elections, the ongoing commission of inquiry on elections courtesy ODM is on tax payers money.

    Fresh elections may be a good idea but,
    What happens to the electorate whose cards were burnt, destroyed or stolen?. How do the thousands of electorate and who have a legal right to vote but displaced from their homes vote?
    How many people have the strength to make those long lines?.
    Would the MPS also be re-elected?

  7. rafiq says:

    I dont expect anybody who refuses to share power to relingush it instead. The people who planned the electoral fraud, the cabinet stalemate and the police massacre wouldnt accept. So i as much as people may think its the best way out , i honestly dont believe so. Instead as KK has consistently said the constitution is the issue. By allowing for a refenderum after the constitution we will have a mini election bcoz as usual there will be a No and Yes.
    More important I dont recommend anybody to contemplate elections under Kihara Mutu and the prisons cum presidents lawyer. If they stay put you would rather not vote

  8. Jane says:

    ODMers, the ‘pink’ fellow in the name of US Ambassador in kenya, Michael, is now equating Kenyan MPs with kindergarten kids. So when ODM and RAO keep running to these fellows for help, at least the ambassador has said loudly how he views them, like kindergarten kids. “Mk has done this to us, MK is doing that, come, help, freeze aid, I want to be a minister, another raises their hands,etc”. Once RAO and the pentagon leave these pink fellow’s offices, the fellows are left behind laughing.

  9. Railkamuodho says:

    Communism as usual, I now feel the way newsmen feel when they are subjected to media gag and regulations. I did not know how the media felt when Michuki ordered a stop to carying live broadcast for a whole whopping month.
    Rafiq, is given the greenlight to spit all he wants but for us outsiders, we feel the way you feel when not allowed to see the president or get some hearings.
    I said again, when hangers on politicians are removed from the scene, the two Kenyan leaders will take this country far. We expect that Muthaura and Isihakia will now issue a joint statement on the way forward and especially as the new cabinet is unveiled tomorrow. Some politicians on both sides will be in for a big shock. The total ministers will be between 24 and 30. Thanks for the sanity of the two. I am sure no hate will follow this historic meeting. We do not want ministers from the same tribe to dominate the nation. Full stop.

  10. Railkamuodho says:

    You do not give up in a fight for freedom and justice. We need new election of the mind not of the country. I was for immediate elections. But since the majority of Kenyans are now concerned with peace and work, I withdraw my push for new elections and instead embark on rebuilding and empowering my fellow IDPs. I do not bulldoz my ideas like a fool.

  11. Maru Kapkatet says:

    THEY HAVE AGREED.

    That is great news for Kenya. Hon. Raila Odinga is not the type of person to undermine. He respects “Jaduong”. I have watched Raila over the years and I remember very well what he said in Kisumu during Moi’s last official visit to Kisumu.

    Raila asked the residents of Kisumu and its environs to respect Moi since he was the one with the bride. Raila’s words have resonated with me to date and have convinced me that Raila is a man who respects “Jaduong”.

    It is my sincere hope that these words will reassure President Kibaki so that he can shut out fitina and together with Raila build the Kenya Kenyans are dreaming of.

    It has been a period of sleepless nights for many Kenyans in Kenya and abroad, who care for a Kenya for all Kenyans by all Kenyans, since late December last year.

    It is my prayer and hope that we can now focus our energies on the business of building Kenya, directly or indirectly, and by all means possible.

    In conclusion, I congratulate President Kibaki and PM Raila for doing Kenya good and all Kenyans everywhere, I am sure, will respond by according both leaders the respect and support that are due them.

  12. Railkamuodho says:

    Maru,
    And I wish for a moment that former president Moi will be accorded the respect he deserves for taking this country for 24 years without a hitch. Yes, I met the former president before and I know for sure that he is a humble man and will be ready to forgive those who have subjected him to humiliation. Yes, I have a special place for this Octogenerian and remain loyal to what he has always stood for- nationalism. Ask Lee Njiru. Some people think that Njiru has stayed with Moi because of money. I can bet that even if another president offered him millions of shillings that this man will stick with mzee. pleas let us apologize to him.

  13. rafiq says:

    RailK,
    You should be the last to cast a stone against anyone including agent for change because of bad sentiments. As you remember many guys have asked agent for change to block you because of your open hate and undermining other communities. unfortunatly you think you are the best and others dont deserve better. If you did not understand my metaphorical description of your state am sorry. Proabaly I should have put them in simpler terms

    Nevertheless I am a Kenyan just like all ODMers who beleieve in equality, equity, justice and truth for all Kenyans. I owe no one apologies for that. I also believe that every Kenyan child born today and they are millions deserve equal opprtunity in life and that a Njemp can also have the ambition of becoming a president of kenya courtesy of his citizenship plus ability and not tribe.

    Since your view is absolutely different and you have inherent hate for others and incesant love for your own I accept that worse than ODM and its diehard opponents we will almost always disagree. I respect your opinion and you should respect mine and other ODMers too. You know you are here to test our resilience and I dont know why you dont appreciate the small window given to you by our all inclusive blog.

    Please remember next time to say thank you to agent for change and all other Kenyans here who dare answer you. But I also admit that it might be hard coz you couldnt say thank you to RAO in 2002, find it difficult to say the same in 2008 instead you say to hell with the people.

    Finally I may understand that this could be a long term pride and prejudice affair, but please dont teach your offsprings these negative things. Allow them to embraace and appreciate others whether they are Arabs, somalis, luhyas, kikuyus, luos, kaleos, etc

    @ MARU
    As for the ‘breakthrough’-wait until mzee confirms with UK and Martha Karua before you get answers. He might make another U turn. I wish they announced the cabinet from the lodge.

  14. rafiq says:

    RailK,
    You should be the last to cast a stone against anyone including agent for change because of bad sentiments. As you remember many guys have asked agent for change to block you because of your open hate and undermining other communities. unfortunatly you think you are the best and others dont deserve better. If you did not understand my metaphorical description of your state am sorry. Proabaly I should have put them in simpler terms

    Nevertheless I am a Kenyan just like all ODMers who beleieve in equality, equity, justice and truth for all Kenyans. I owe no one apologies for that. I also believe that every Kenyan child born today and they are millions deserve equal opprtunity in life and that a Njemp can also have the ambition of becoming a president of kenya courtesy of his citizenship plus ability and not tribe.

    Since your view is absolutely different and you have inherent hate for others and incesant love for your own I accept that worse than ODM and its diehard opponents we will almost always disagree. I respect your opinion and you should respect mine and other ODMers too. You know you are here to test our resilience and I dont know why you dont appreciate the small window given to you by our all inclusive blog.

    Please remember next time to say thank you to agent for change and all other Kenyans here who dare answer you. But I also admit that it might be hard coz you couldnt say thank you to RAO in 2002, find it difficult to say the same in 2008 instead you say to hell with the people.

    Finally I may understand that this could be a long term pride and prejudice affair, but please dont teach your offsprings these negative things. Allow them to embraace and appreciate others whether they are Arabs, somalis, luhyas, kikuyus, luos, kaleos, etc

    @ MARU
    As for the ‘breakthrough’-wait until mzee confirms with UK and Martha Karua before you get answers. He might make another U turn. I wish they announced the cabinet from the lodge

  15. Horesia says:

    I do not support the call for fresh elections in the current constitution and the electoral commission. These two institutions must be reformed first before we call for another election. We must also ask ourselves what will happen in the interim. MK will continue to govern with his troup of ministers while ODM is out in the cold. He can decide to drag his feet as long as it suits him best. Unless we have a way to force him to call the elections immediately which I dought.

    We have earned the right to be in this governemnt in whatever form and we should not abdicate it to anyone. We have killed the politics of patronage in ODM and now we should work hard to extend it to our brothers in PNU & ODMK who still thrive on handouts from the institution of fraudlent presidency. So let us take up our rightful place in the government and strive to reform the electoral commission, the Judiciary, the police force and bring about a new constitutional dispensation.

    RAO and ODM now have a legal platform to serve Kenyans as they prepare for the next elections to claim back what is rightfully theirs.

    Kudos to Kenyans you have stopped Kenya from degenerating into another Zimbabwe and did not resort to the legal process which is a farce like the Nigerians and Ugandans did. We have told off the ‘president’ and stopped him from toying around with our country like Mugabe has done in the past 28 years. If we had kept quiet like lambs waiting to be slaughtered this man would now be campaigning for a change in the constitution to allow him a third term. But now I know he wouldn’t dare and nobody will ever dream of stealing our votes again.

    Kudos to the lads in Kebera for keeping the fire burning even when the going looked bleak and to African leaders the lesson learned from Kenya is that you can only govern people who agree to be governed.

    Three quarters of the country has refused be be governed if the accord is not honored.

    FYI: We have an uncharacteristic knack of producing sychophants even when we think we have gotten rid of the Kombos, Nyachaes, Tujus, silenced the Mungatanas, Karuas and Kiraitus out emerges Wetangula, Kalonzo Musyoka and Mutula Kilonzo. I hope ODM will not have its own breed of sychophants!!

  16. karanja kamau says:

    RAILKAMUODHO………..OPEN LETTER
    I think you erred in saying what you said about RAFIQ he’s been a gentlemen when he has engaged you and he’s always 99.999% in his post other ODM bloggers can attest to this……………
    As for agent 4 change he’s been very fair for people with radical views and he’s tribal blindness……. he moderates views but not tribal configuration…
    As you well know we are in the process of building a new kenya and your fair contribution is needed to move forward…….
    I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND WHERE I’M COMING FROM BECAUSE YOU ARE A TRUE KENYAN WITH LOTS OF POTENTIAL………

  17. Railkamuodho says:

    Rafiq and kamau,
    Every person has the freedom to fight for a course and I think that is what you guys are up to. However, when some people turns that battle into hatred and use of double standard to gauge those who are more Kenyans than others, then that becomes a problem. For example, is this forum meant to be a place for sycohants or a citadel of exachanging ideas? Let me tell you how I ended up here. I continued for a very long time to post my blogg without success- because of the posts that I read concerning “kikuyu bashing”. I was offended especially after the burning live (at stake) in Eldoret. I had a moral duty to enter the fray and correct that assumption because it was based on the wrong premise. I do not think that the defence of my half people is based at any given time an exotic love for the Agikuyu, rather it is based on the understanding that they are part and parcel of this great country.
    Secondly, I am not a pacifist. I believe that nations and tribes have a right to defend themselves against aggression. Thus when a community is threatened because of political arguments/disagreement and actually they are killed, they have a right to defend themselves. After reading this blogg for a while, I cannot doubt that the view of other leader’s tribes is that the Agikuyu are the problem in Kenya. But then the question comes, do the Kikuyu have a right to democratic process? Why target them for expressing their God-given rights? Why always talk of the need to respect or be loyalty when they settle in RV? If most of us were asked to respect and be loyal to the people we visit in their land (europe and America), we would be thrown out. But our white brothers are tolerant with us.
    Now, then do I hate other tribes? Not at all. Infact most of my friends have been from other parts of Kenya in Kibera to Eastalands. And by the way, most of us who have been Eastlanders to not understand our mother tongues as we do swahili. We never reasoned from a tribal perspective. But then, our leaders have reminded our youth to use both the power of the ballot and the matchetes. Yet when I post that on this blogg, you end up deleting it.
    Finally, do I have hope in Kenya? Absolutely, this country is stronger than our evil self. Can you imagine only a small clique of politicians are ready to send this nation to doom simply because of their greed for power? Yet, the reselient of my brothers and sisters will culminate in a better and prosperous Kenya where as before, I may go and settle in Bungoma without the fear of goons attacking me.
    I hope both gentlement read this before it is deleted.

  18. Jane says:

    When news reporters keep talking about first grand coalition, have they forgotten about the previous parliament where the cabinet had mps from all political parties NARC, KANU, FORD-P, etc
    ( wasn’t that a grand coalition government )etc. Its yet to be proven if RAO will stick in government given that he is naturally in the opposition.

    Its a disgrace that some of our leaders are still colonised in their minds. They have to keep running to Germany, America, etc for political solutions.

    President MK has said no to dictatorship and propaganda by these foreign powers and their agents in Kenya, and no wonder the so much heat after the 2007 general elections. These foreign powers now know MK is not their sycophant.

  19. Maru Kapkatet says:

    A LETTER TO MZEE DANIEL ARAP MOI

    Dear Mzee Daniel Toroitich arap Moi,

    Today is a day of great joy for all Kenyans. A grand coalition Cabinet is about to be unveiled by President Mwai Kibaki in the presence of Prime Minister Raila Odinga.

    As we celebrate the birth of a re-invented and re-engineered way of government in Kenya and as the curtain falls on the political tussles of the last few months, my conscince cannot be clear until and unless I seek forgiveness from you, Mzee Moi.

    I have been one of thousands and probably milions of Kenyans who have vilified you

  20. Maru Kapkatet says:

    A LETTER TO MZEE DANIEL ARAP MOI

    Dear Mzee Daniel Toroitich arap Moi,

    Today is a day of great joy for all Kenyans. A grand coalition Cabinet is about to be unveiled by President Mwai Kibaki in the presence of, amongst others, Prime Minister Raila Odinga.

    As we celebrate the birth of a renewed Kenya, a Kenya governed by a re-invented and re-engineered way of government, I take this opportunity to re-examine my words and deeds of the last few months.

    As the curtain falls on the political and personal tussles of the last few months, my conscience will be troubled if I do not seek forgiveness from you, Mzee Moi. I am sorry for any abusive words that I have used against you.

    I am not naive as to dismiss as inconsequential all wrongs that have been committed againts you, Mzee Moi, by Kalenjins, including myself. I ask the Kalenjin elders – Hon. Henry Kosgei and Hon. Kipkalya Kones – to arrange for a delegation of elders to visit Mzee Moi and seek his forgiveness on behalf of the Kalenjin community.

    Before I conclude, Mzee Moi, I have one request to make. As you remember very well, the Maasai people honoured you with a gift of land when you became the president of Kenya in 1978.

    I have been watching the plight of the Maasai people over he years. Land is getting smaller to support their nomadic way of life. Drought occassioned by climate change and the increasing deforestation and stress on land have combined to make life increasingly hard for the Maasai people.

    I am taking this opportunity, Mzee Moi, to request you to donate that land that the Maasai people gave you in 1978 (or was it 1979?) back to them so that Maasai Heritage University can be build on it.

    The university will speacialize in teaching and research on Kenyan culture (Maasai in particular), sustainability of nomadic way of life, livestock development in an arid envronment, health, agriculture, forestation of an arid land, water resources, environment and climate change, wildlife and tourism, and technology.

    The Maasai people have given so much to the world. I believe that in every city and town in every nation, one will find some Maasai memorabilia and reminder. It is time the world gave back to the Maasai people.

    I foresee the Maasai Heritage university as an international university, supported by a trust fund that has branches throughout the world. I also foresee the Maasai Heritage university as a unique university where top world scholars will take some residence to come and do some research and teaching for free in exchange for a free tourism ride in Maasai Mara game reserve.

    Australia has unmatched expertise in livestock development and I am sure they will not be reluctant to help set up a teaching research facility on livestock developmennt in arid ad semi-arid conditions.

    The Maasai Heritage university will be a private and public partnership within Kenya with an international flavour fronted by UNESCO. It will be managed by a board of trustees with overseas branches with the chair of that board of trustees and a substantial membership of the Board being Maasai people themselves.

    The board will market the university as a unique combination of work and tourism for international scholars. The Maasai Heritage university should also attempt to attract even the CDC in Atlanta to have a permanent station there.

    If, Mzee Moi, you can donate the land back to the Maasai to have a university build there, you will have done a great thing for the Maasai people and for all Kenyans.

    A portion of the land could be used to build a shopping centre and hospital to be named Ole Moi town and hospital.

    Mzee Moi, God has blessed you abundantly. You have had everything. Remember, Mzee Moi, that IT IS MORE BLESSED TO GIVE THAN TO RECEIVE (ACTS 20:35).

    I wish you the best of health and a happy and blessed retirement, Mzee Moi

    Yours sincerely,

    Maru Kapkatet

  21. Otieno says:

    is this a joke?

    Where is the pentagon in this list? Maybe it is incomplete

    ===================

    Kenya’s new Cabinet

    Story by ANTHONY KARIUKI
    Publication Date: 4/13/2008
    Kenya’s coalition Government has finally been unveiled following weeks of tense negotiations between President Kibaki and Prime Minister-designate Raila Odinga.

    President Kibaki and Prime Minister Raila Odinga after they agreed to share power.
    President Kibaki, accompanied by Mr Odinga and Vice President Kalonzo Musyoka, has announced the new Cabinet in a live address from State House, Nairobi, to the nation.

    Here are the members of the new Cabinet:

    President: Mwai Kibaki

    Vice President and Minster for Home Affairs: Kalonzo Musyoka

    Prime Minister: Raila Odinga

    Deputy PM and Minster for Trade Uhuru Kenyatta

    Deputy PM and Minister for Local Governmet: Musalia Mudavadi

    Minister for Internal Security and Provincial Adminstration: Prof George Saitoti

    Asst. Ministers: Orwa Ojode

    Simeon Lesrima

    Minister for Roads: Kiplaya Kones

    Asst. Ministers: Machage, Lee Kinyanjui

    Minister for Public Works: Chris Obure
    Asst. Minister: Dick Wathika

    Minister for Transport: Chirau Mwakere

    Asst. Minister: John Mwau

    Minister for Lands: James Orengo

    Asst. Minister: Sylvester Wakoli and Samuel Rae

    Minister for Energy: Kiraitu Murungi

    Asst. Ministers: Charles Keter and Mohammed Maalim

    Minster for Roads: Kiplaya Kones

    Asst. Minister: Wilfred Machage

    Minister for Special Programmes: Naomi Shaban

    Asst. Minister: Mohammed Ali

    Minister for Gender and Children: Esther Mathenge

    Asst. Minister: Athanus Keya

    Minister for Public Health and Sanitation: Beth Mugo

    Asst. Minister: J Ondicho

    Minister for Medical Services: Prof Anyang’ Nyong’o

    Asst. Minister: Danson Mungatana

    Minister for Labour: John Munyes

    Asst. Minister: Sospeter Ojamoong

    Minister for Youth and Sports: Prof Helen Sambili

    Asst. Ministers: Wavinya Ndeti and Kabando wa Kabando

    Minister for Education: Prof Sam Ongeri

    Asst. Ministers: Patrick Olweny and Andrew Mwatela

    Minister for Higher Education: Sally Kosgei

    Asst. Ministers: Kilemi Mwiria and Osman Kamama

    Minister for Immigration and Registration of Persons: Otieno Kajwang

    Asst. Minister Francis Baya

    Minister for Defence: Yusuf Haji

    Asst. Ministers: David Musila and Joseph Nkaisssery

    Attorney General: Amos Wako

    source:

    http://www.nationmedia.com/dailynation/nmgcontententry.asp?category_id=1&newsid=121099

  22. rafiq says:

    Otieno:
    I think they are well represented here despite the weight of the ministries.

  23. rafiq says:

    I think its complete. Pentagon ably represented.
    ruto -agriculture
    mudavadi-local govt
    balala-tourism
    nyaga-cooperative devt

  24. Maru Kapkatet says:

    The Cabinet is Huge but it’s OK. Time to move on.

    There is one thing I will say about PM Raila Odinga. He does not abandon people who have stood by him.

    Kalonzo Musyoka abandoned Dr. Julia Ojiambo and David Maanzo.

    Not Raila. He does not abandon. He does not undermine. What a great leader he is !

  25. Railkamuodho says:

    All Kenyans,
    Bishop Margaret Wanjiru once apologized to former president Moi on behalf of others for the humiliation shown in 2002. Moi forgave everyone before he left the big position. As I said before, this man foresaw the problems we are facing today and nobody listened to his wise counsel. Had the former president sorrounded himself with the right people, then things would have worked differently.
    I am glad that president Kibaki and Prime Minister Raila Odinga have taken this opportunity to reconcile this nation. This is just the beginning of the long healing process and we should jump into the occasion to re-write history.
    One thing I have learnt from the whole process, that when we put sycophancy aside, we can build a great nation.

  26. Otieno says:

    Thx Rafiq,

    The list wasn’t complete by the time I looked at it 🙂

  27. tnk says:

    final analysis

    total cabinet comprises 94, with 49 PNU and 45 ODM

    breakout

    Cabinet Post ODM PNU
    Pres – 1
    VP – 1
    PM 1 –
    Dep PM 1 1
    Min 18 19
    Asst Min 25 27

    Provincial Breakout of ministers and assistant ministers ( 43 ODM and 46 PNU)

    ODM (Min+Asst= Total) PNU (Min+Asst= Total))
    Central Nil 4 + 3 = 7
    Coast 2 + 3 = 5 2 + 3 = 5
    Eastern 2 + 1 = 3 3 + 9 =12
    Nairobi 1 + 2 = 3 1 + 1 = 2
    North Eastern 1 + 2 = 3 1 + 1 = 2
    Nyanza 5 + 6 =11 1 + 3 = 4
    Rift Valley 5 + 7 =12 5 + 6 =11
    Western 2 + 4 = 6 2 + 1 = 3

    Porfolio by PROVINCE

    Province Exec + Minister + Asst = total
    Central President + Dep PM + 4 + 3 = 9
    Coast 4 + 6 = 10
    Eastern Vice President + 5 + 10 =16
    Nairobi 2 + 3 = 5
    North Eastern 2 + 3 = 5
    Nyanza Prime Minister + 6 + 9 = 16
    Rift Valley 10 + 13 =23
    Western Dep PM + 4 + 5 = 10

    There is talk of some ministers being more powerful than others but i think that is not necessarily true especially if this cabinet and all MPs attempt to deliver services and real change.

    in all fairness this balancing act was a difficult task to be all inclusive and on this i congratulate MK and RAO together with whoever assisted in working out the formula to give the (sadly bloated) cabinet a representative face of Kenya and achieving this balance. I would however still believe that a boycott of swearing in ceremony to protest the bloated cabinet is still in order.

    Hope the next phase of institutional reforms embarks in full swing followed by constitutional reforms.

    Regrettably, there is still room for mischief and nothing stops Kibaki with or without consultation with RAO from appointing more Asst Ministers or Ministers, but I can only hope that wont happen.

  28. tnk says:

    sorry guys formatting got lost but available for those interested.

  29. tnk says:

    three ministries where ODM does not have either a minister or assistant minister

    Ministry of Foreign Affairs
    Ministry of Transport
    Ministry of Youth and Sports

  30. Railkamuodho says:

    TNK,
    Is there a possibility that some small tribes were marginalized. For example, Asman Kamama and Wilfred Machage were demoted to accomodate others. They represent the Pokot and the Kuria people. While the Turkanan have John Munyes of FORD-K, I feel that the small tribes were once again sidelined. I think the issue of Cabinet should be addressed comprehensively and the offices of MPs made in the level of Senate so that all representitives will be carrying the mantle of a tribes.
    While I applaud the gesture to return Kenya to sanity, I believe that some major tribes got a big share of the cake compared to others (ie Luo, Kikuyu, Kalenjin). I hope the smaller tribes will be rewarded in the ambassadoria and provincial administration appointments if they have qualified people. The Kuria people have well educated people (like professor Chacha Nyaigoti Chacha and others).

  31. Railkamuodho says:

    ON MOI,
    Thanks Maru for the spirited letter and your apology to Mzee Moi. I am sure as an elder statesman, he will gladly accept this apology and especially if it is led by some elders to his Kabarak farm. Some people like Rutoh know Moi very well and can easily get an appointment to see him or Bett or Kones. I totally agree with you brother.
    And for the Kikuyu and Kalenjin, a cleansing ceremony and prayer of confession should be organized in Eldoret and say “never again will we shed blood”. I know our God is a God of new beginnings and there is no sin too big for Him to forgive. Yes, He will.
    This will happen even as parliament addresses any forms of injustices meted against any community including the Maa people.

  32. rafiq says:

    I dont mind so much who and who not is represented here. We have a crisis in our hands with security today am told in Nairobi and suburbs are burning courtesy of illegal groups.

    I think we should work and deliver for the next elections. The fact that we are not 100% comfortable means that we will work with eyes focussed on the constitution and next elections.

    For MK its unfortunate he had to push such a big cabinet , I wonder whether his economic policies make sense with all these. For ODM let ruto ensure we dont starve.

  33. Railkamuodho says:

    politics is politics. Remember that both PNU and ODM had those they felt they should reward. That is the weight of the new cabinet. Kibaki had an obligation to Soita Shitanda and Moses Wentangula and maybe Musikari Kombo. This was also true of Raila. Fortunately, Raila had the manouvrebaility with only 5 assured posts and the likes of Henry Koskei, Sally Kosgei and Kipkalia Kones (he did very well on roads during Moi’s time. Then he was fired. I know he can do it again and suprise everybody). So lets wait and see.
    The men to watch before 2012- Raila Odinga, Musalia Mudavadi, Kalonzo Musyoka, Uhuru Kenyatta, George Saitoti and William Rutoh. The best pair will emerge victorous and you never know how this will play out.

  34. tnk says:

    Railka

    The political/govt administrative unit is the constituency, and if there are communities not well represented then they need to agitate for boundary redefinition of the current boundaries if that will help further their cause for appointment or inclusion to cabinet and other govt organs.

    it could probably be unfeasible to make a blanket law for inclusion since this would likely be in conflict with some other considerations but your point is well taken, that indeed there are still some communities being elbowed out in the struggle for dominance by some other larger communities.

    On the other hand, if all institutions were elevated to higher levels of non-partisan and citizen driven service performance, then it matters little who is serving or heading the public service or executive/cabinet since the quality of service will be uniform/standard (and hopefully highest quality) across the board minimising need for ethnic in-fighting. the biggest problem is a person or individual messing up and abusing position of authority and then cronies, ethnic or other communities (business or social) coalescing around the individual ostensibly to protect him/her and the so called community interest or stake.

    it appears that we as kenyans still have some way to go to break that mould and its unclear whether the loyalty is community driven or just plain madness and greed. some have outgrown some of these traits but its those that still subscribe to such mentality that will continually pull down any upward mobility. but am sure you have your own views and values on this

  35. kip says:

    wonder ,when you guys will be 76 year old grandmothers and grandfathers … will you want to be working all day and night shuttling between meetings in Dowtown Nairobi till 9 pm at night? with the intention of clinging onto power that you have had close to 40 years of your adult life?? if you ask kip me I DONT !!want !I. I rather be retired somewhere enjoying my sunset years [IF I make it to that age !]

    Ladies and Gentlemen …What kibaki wants and what kibaki is going to get are two different things. Kibaki is history; it is just a matter of time. He will go down as the worst president Kenya has ever had and that is the only way he will be remembered~

    READ more hapa ….
    http://mweusi.wordpress.com/2008/04/10/the-emperor-is-naked/

  36. tnk says:

    agent4change

    i believe in light of recent recent events, this thread has now become obsolete

  37. Mike Okello says:

    I am disappointed,

    There was too much hunger in ODM, the hunger to serve kenyans, The hunger to cause change amongst the Kenyan people that was sooooo touted. Indeed it is said that Raila ceded so much ground so that at last ODM may have an opportunity to serve Kenyans, Indeed the push to get the most influential ministries was again to serve Kenyans. and to get as near as possible to the dream they initially had about Kenya, so they are finally in Govt…..

    But if for this change to come it had to come through William Ole Ntimama, Otieno Kajwang’, Henry Kosgey, Kipkalaya Kones etc…. THEN I AM GLAD ODM was not in control from the word GO!,

    The difference between my expectation of ODM’s line-Up and the real picture as displayed Yesterday, is so much that it would shock anyone to Death’

    Thank God the future was only orange in the placards, but not orange in the lives of Kenyans after all.

  38. Railkamuodho says:

    Kip,
    Why is John MCcain still in the race for white house. Or since he is white he is intelligently endowed than blacks even thoug old? How about the best US president Ronald Reagan, how old was he when he left office? Kibaki to be the worst president? That is laughable. I do not know what history you are talking about. Other nations and the US see the two leaders having risen to the occassion to save Kenya from the death bed. Well, is your view is from a tribal perspective because you never recieved what you really wanted- chase out people forever?
    Leave historian to write that history when the time comes. Otherwise we, together with our politicians are just players in this theatre and others will speak when we leave. Or you can do it when Kibaki, like Moi retires. Thanks

  39. Elizabeth says:

    We want to move on as a nation and as a people. Kenyans have had their fair share of election fiasco and its high time we put our heads together and charted the way forward.

    Often times we do not get everything that we want, so its better we start from somewhere and end up into that place that we want to be. Who in Kenya today wouldn’t wish for a peaceful nights’ sleep without the nightmares of IDP’s hoovering over your head like some bad breath?

    We need to look at our core values as a people, we need to put our priorities in place, because we are not reahearsing, the yester year is gone. It will be pointless if some few illadviced lots will still be busy skimming on ways to surbotage Raila as a PM.

    This life is short and sweet, it is so rediculous how some people work day and night to make other’s lives miserable. In the name of power, yet when they all die, they become dust and delicasies of dudus, how vain! VANITY OF VANITIES!

    What I am I talking about here? I mean lets move on, focus on salvaging what we have on our hands as a nation and throw all we have behind building this beautiful motherland.

  40. Maru Kapkatet says:

    UNFINISHED BUSINESS:

    1. Bring Back John Githongo to serve in the civil service preferably to replace Francis Muthaura as Head of Civil Service – Action by President Kibaki (He needs to right a wrong he committed) and by PM Raila Odinga (He promised to use John Githongo)

    2. Appoint Francis Ole Kaparo as Chair of the Electoral Commission of Kenya – Action by President Kibaki and PM Raila (The continued retention of Samwel Kivuithu as Chair is both annoying and an impediment to healing of political and social wounds)

    3. Appoint Francis Ole Kaparo as Chair of the Maasai Heritage university Board of Trustees – Action by Hon. Ntimama, the Maasai people, and Hon. Sally Kosgei

    4. Appoint two more assistant ministers – both women, one to the Ministry of Finance and another one to the Ministry of Agriculture. Why are women being locked out of the Ministry of Finance? Why is a large ministry like Finance having only one assistant minister. The new Assistant Minister in the Ministry of Agriculture will be responsible for food security.

    FINAL COMMENT: When I first saw the list of Cabinet ministers in the Standard, two things struck me immediately, namely: (a) The Cabinet is huge and (b) ODM has landed a genuine 50% share of government. Forget about Finance, Foreign Affairs, and Justice being retained by PNU. Hon. Raila Odinga has it all. He has all his Pentagon members in the Cabinet. He has both Sally Kosge and Henry Kosgei in the Cabinet. He has all his weapons to run the government with Kibaki. The thing that Raila must do now is endear himself, throough hard work, to Kenyans and the international community.

    The biggest loser is Kalonzo Musyoka. He betrayed Kenyans. He is in the process of being betrayed himself as Uhuru positions himself for a titanic battle with Raila whenever the next war is declared.

  41. Maru Kapkatet says:

    URGENT BUSINESS FOR KENYAN LEADERS:

    1. President Mwai Kibaki and PM Raila Odinga, appoint an Assistant Minister in charge of food in the ministry of Agriculture. The Assistant Minister, a woman, will be in charge of food security – food availability and affordability. The hottest issue in the world right now is food crisis.

    http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=412984

    The Assistant Minister in charge of food will keep track of food production, storage, shortages, and food prices and will keep track of plans and decisions by world agencies dealing with food.

    2. Honourable Lady Ministers – Hon. Sally Kosgei (Ministry of Hihger Education), Hon. Beth Mugo(Ministry of Public Health and Sanitation), and Hon. Charity Ngilu (Ministry of Water and Irrigation) , could you please launch a water and latrine project tomorrow. In many parts of Kenya, both in urban and rural areas – wananchi are drilling drinking water bireholes and digging next to them pit latrines. Their plots of land are getting smaller and smaller and they are being forced to have both water boreholes and latrines next to one another. Could you, ladies, launch a reasearch and development project to be carried by our universities to come up with a solution to this problem.

  42. tnk says:

    this is to jane and mike,

    you both have been very vocal against destruction of property and disruption of activity

    please read the following

    http://www.kenyatimesonline.com/content.asp?catid=2&articleId=2892

    and see if that makes any sense to you at all.

  43. Jogoo_shujaa says:

    @tnk, rafiq

    As previous advised, there you have it. You definately have seen the news.

    I promised not to contribute on this blog, but I had to visit you again to remind you of the nature of my implicity suggestion, I had to wait for events to take place that will give you direction and be more explicit.

    There you have it. See you later.

    Never ignore the signs on the wall. The music has begun

  44. kip says:

    The purpose of politics is to develop the country and to better the lives of the citizens. The war between kibaki and Raila has been going on for far too long and the peoples business has suffered. Let us give politics a break for even two years while we do some peoples business for a change. If it up to me, Raila would be president today but I believe if he was meant to be, he will be. Raila has won some and kibaki has won some. I remember when Kibaki reneged on the promise to name Raila PM back in 2003, well he just named Raila PM five years later. Raila can count that as a win. Kibaki can also claim a win because he is still president.

    http://mweusi.wordpress.com/2008/04/13/minister-for-vision-2030-wtf/

  45. Maru Kapkatet says:

    MAKE PROTOCOL CHANGES NOW:

    1. The Chief of Protocol and indeed the Ministry of Foreign Affairs must introduce changes to the existing protocol rules to take into account the PM.

    Dignitaries visiting Kenya to see the Kenyan leadership (President) must also call on, before or after (the protocol experts should determine the order), the PM.

    2. Bilateral and multilateral discussions between Kenya and other countries must involve the PM, as the head of the Kenyan side, with the Minister involved being a participant and/or secretary

    3. Any loan or grant given to Kenya must have a new set of documents for the PM and a line for the PM’s signature. Disbursement of monies to Kenya and related legal documents must have extra copies for the PM’s office.

    3. A copy of records of loan repayments must be availed to the PM’s office. The PM must have a record of monies received or paid by the government.

    4. The Auditor General and the Paymaster General must keep the PM informed regularly of all major financial transactions going on in government

  46. rafiq says:

    Guys we cant change a thing now. We have to work hard and enjoy the fruits of such work. Nobody should be deceived the principles of our leaders are intact. Remember the cockerel swallowing the treactor with the engine on! Nevertheless my recommendation is that amidst the work two guys should be tamed for ever-His excellency chief traitor Honorless SKM and his deputy UK.

    I will NOT recognize the two even though they are presumed leaders in our country. Its my own personal view, beacuse of their selfishness you all are entitled to yours.

    @Jogoo,

    Havent watched all the news but if your supporters new every plan ODM had, they would have made the right choice last elctions. Now they stand to be isolated. But hope there will be some dialogue. I dont like people being squarters in their own country yet there grand parents fought for the freedom of their country. Also being used by selfish individuals is not a good deal too.

    @ Maru
    No more appointments please. Wait until next elections. Even Bill gates has to balance the books.

  47. Amani says:

    NOW THE CABINET IS IN…. AND HERE NOW BEGINS THE GRAND MISTRUST… BUT GOD CAN HAVE FAVOR IN US ONCE AGAIN.

    The agenda for the new cabinet should be:
    1. Reduce their salaries and tax them for heavens sake
    2. New Constitution.

    The weapon for 2012 is the constitution

  48. Maru Kapkatet says:

    TO: HON. WILLIAM OLE NTIMAMA

    SUBJECT: MAASAI HERITAGE UNIVERSITY

    WHEN I FIRST TOUTED THE IDEA OF ESTABLISHING MAASAI HERITAGE UNIVERSITY, AN IDEA THAT HAS BEEN ON MY MIND FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW, I DID NOT KNOW THAT YOU WOULD BE APPOINTED MINISTER OF CULTURE AND HERITAGE.

    WHEN I SAW THAT YOU HAD BEEN APPOINTED THE MINISTER OF HERITAGE, I WAS SO HAPPY THAT MY IDEA MAY BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY.

    HON. NTIMAMA, YOU HAVE INDICATED THAT THIS IS YOUR LAST TERM AS MP.

    I EARNESTLY ASK YOU TO USE THIS LAST TERM TO ESTABLISH SOMETHING FOR THE MAA PEOPLE. THE WORLD HAS BEEN EXCITED AND ENTERTAINED BY THE MAA PEOPLE AND THE WORLD HAS TO GIVE BACK SOMETHING TO THEM.

    I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY, MZEE NTIMAMA, TO ASK YOU TO SET IN MOTION A PROCESS TO ESTABLISH MAASAI HERITAGE UNIVERSITY, WHICH WILL BENEFIT HIGHER EDUCATION FOR MAASAI PEOPLE IN THAT THE UNIVERSITY WILL GIVE THE NOMADIC MAA PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET UNIVERSITY EDUCATION OVER A LONGER PERIOD.

    DURING THE TIME THAT THE MAA PEOPLE ARE NOT TAKING THEIR CATTLE FAR FROM HOME TO LOOK FOR GREEN PASTURES, THEY WILL BE IN RESIDENCE IN THE UNIVERSITY LEARNING.

    THE UNIVERSITY WILL ALSO PRESERVE FOR POSTERITY MAASAI CULTURE AND HERITAGE, WHICH HAVE MESMERIZED THE WORLD FOR MANY YEARS.

    I ASK YOU, MZEE NTIMAMA, TO SET UP A COMMITTEE OUTSIDE OF GOVERNMENT TO PURSUE THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE. FIRST, THEY HAVE TO FIND LAND SOMEWHERE WITHIN NAROK DISTRICT. SECOND, THEY HAVE TO FIND WAYS OF RAISING FUNDS ACROSS THE WORLD.

    I ASK YOU TO REQUEST SOMEONE FROM STRATHMORE COLLEGE, SOMEONE LIKE PROF. SPERLING, TO SIT ON THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES TO HELP THE MAA PEOPLE WITH THE IDEA OF ESTABLISHING A PRIVATE-PUBLIC UNIVERSITY ALONG THE LINES OF STRATHMORE UNIVERSITY.

    THE FORMER SPEAKER, MR. FRANCIS OLE KAPARO, IS A WELL-KNOWN INDIVIDUAL AND YOU COULD TAP HIM TO GET THINGS STARTED RIGHT AWAY.

    MZEE NTIMAMA, BEING THE MINISTER OF CULTURE AND HERITAGE GIVES YOU A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO PRESERVE FOR POSTERITY MAASAI CULTURE AND WAY OF LIFE IN AN ACADEMIC INSTITUTION MANAGED BY THE MAA PEOPLE THEMSELVES.

    YOU MAY ASK YOUR CABINET COLLEAGUE, HON. SALLY KOSGEI, TO AVAIL SOME GOVERNMENT HELP.

    THE GOVERNMENT AND PEOPLE OF KENYA HAVE REAPED HUGE SUMS OF MONEY USING THE MAA PEOPLE AND THEY SHOULD NOT PLAY ANY POLITICS ON THIS IDEA OF ESTABLISHING MAASAI HERITAGE UNIVERSITY.

  49. now my dear friend kalonzo musyoka should be able to see clear writtings on the wall.he has been pretenting to be acompromiser of some sorts.he is equaly compromised in full and equal measure.he will play the role of a donkey ,the beast of burden.somebody who will never stand stand for what he knows to be right .

    he should see for himself the grand positioning for 2012 and note that he has no place in the PNU succession plans.similarly to my dear friend saitoti,they share the same fate .they must only live to playsome errand boy duties and that is it.if they want to talk louder they are dropped like hot potatoes and nobody says anything,there will be silence as nothing happens,that is grand politics.

    ODM please have the loudest voices in championing the concerns of our people who still yearn for anew beggining,anew constitution is amust

    we want bomas draft,BOMAS DRAFT<BOMAS DRAFT..into our new constitution and we go for elections within a year.we must move on.we must not lose touch with the electorate for a moment.

    i donot know what it feels like to be sandwitched between two deputy prime ministers as a vice president.it must be choking especially if they are positioned with powerful ministries than you.

    it must make you feel like a hopeless loser just counting fingers for years

    long live kenya!

    SI SE PUEDE

  50. rafiq says:

    Agent for change,
    Its unfair to prevent us from commenting on this blog now that the cabinet is out.
    Its from this blog that our friends informed us of the current insecurity, though they can shed more light on what is next.
    I beg you not to deny us the opprtunity to speak to each other , you and our leaders.
    I think this is ill timed.
    We dont want to continue in this state.

    @Jogoo,
    I sense you brother. Hope we will be able to read from you soon. As I said before-justice equity and equality is my objective. I believe our freedom fighters sons need a share of their parents sweat too.

  51. karanja kamau says:

    SHAMEFUL…….
    Saitoti should either take his job seriously or give it to ODM mp who will gurantee safety of kenyans, it’s playing with intelligence of kenyans when they try to say the govt. was caught in suprise. How can a full govt. with all the apparatus get outplayed? kenyans are better than this…….

  52. karanja kamau says:

    GOOD START……

    I hope everybody was encouraged by how all mps especially ODM ministers were all happy and eager to say the word service…….hope this is the start of more open and effective govt……

  53. karanja kamau says:

    AGENT 4 CHANGE………

    Please put a new topic because this one has been overtaken by events……

  54. OT says:

    Maru, I like your ideas. I hope they are given the seriousness they deserve.

  55. Elizabeth says:

    Oh! Yes! That mute minister in the name of Saitoti should either tell us Kenyans whats going on or quit that office if he doesn’t know what’s happening. No more playing politics with the lives of the very people who feeds him and his family, how sad that he is still quiet and out of the limelight, when we continue to tiptoe while going to work. Someone somewhere should tell us something please!

  56. Maru Kapkatet says:

    PENDING BUSINESS FOR PRESIDENT KIBAKI AND PM RAILA:

    1. NESC: Appoint new members (preferably nine) to the National Economic and Social Council. Four members will come from ODM and four memebers will come from PNU.

    Lynda Chalker a member of Kenya’s NESC. there is another one – a non-Kenyan based in the USA. This is a joke. Kenyans resident in Kenya are best placed to deal with issues affecting Kenyans.

    The four members will be the co-authors of the ODM and PNU manisfestos respectively and will be not be the sitting MPs. The Chair of the NESC should be somebody neutral like Prof. T. Ryan, who once served as Economic or Financial Secretary during President Moi’s time.

    The NESC and the Ministry of Planning, Development and Vision 2030 should publish a quarterly report in the media – newspapers and broadcasting – so that Kenyans can follow what they are doing.

    No one is impressed by loaded names but by results.

    2. Appoint TWO new women assistant ministers: Prof. Kamar to be the assistant minister for agriculture in charge of food security and nominated MP Amina Abdallah as the assistant minister for finance. There is no law in Kenya that says that MPS from neighbouring consituencies cannot serve in the same ministry.

    Women in Kenya should be given responsibilities irrespective of other considerations. Who can serve better on the issue of food security than a woman. In every homestead, the mother of the home is the one always making sure that food was not wasted and that there was some put away for lean times.

    In a Cabinet of 42, what further damage can be done by adding two more women assistant ministers to make the total number of women serving as 15.

    Although the assistant minister for food will be domiciled in the minsitry of agriculture, she will be a roving assistant minister serving the special programmes ministry as well as the ministry of public health.

    3. Hon. Raila Odinga, you did very well in the Cabinet appointments. I noticed that Hon. Sally Kosgei appears last on the list of Cabinet members. It is as if she was added as an addendum. It looks like somebody wanted to leave her out but PM Raila fought hard for her. Thanks, Mr. PM.

    In terms of expertise, neither you nor Hon. Oburu Odinga are schooled in the matters of finance. I request you PM Raila to utilize the expertise of Hon. Okemo in matters of finance. Hon. Okemo should serve as the chair of the finance committee in parliament.

    Hon. Raila Odinga should have an office next to his for Hon. Chris Okemo to use for preparing executive summaries for the PM on financial issues – financial solicitations and agreements, financial transactions and the goings-on in the paymaster general’s office and in Central Bank.

    Hon. Raila Odinga, do not overwhelm yourself with responsibilities. Delegate and for every major decision affecting Kenya, have a second opinion. While the minister for finanace (you cannot supervise in the dark), Mr. Amos Kimunya, is required to brief you regularly by law, you need a second opinion.

    That second opinion will come from Hon. Chris Okemo. There will be continuity for him to serve as minister for finance when Raila becomes the president.

    4. I believe that Kenyans are comfortable to have the current PS in the ministry of finance continue to serve in the ministry. He has served Kenya well and has not been involved in any controversies.

  57. tnk says:

    reason why i like paul muite he sees well beyond the narrow confines. check his statement on the post of PM. granted there will be a lot of debate, but the truth should prevail

    http://www.eastandard.net/news/?id=1143984972&cid=4

  58. tnk says:

    Can our ODM MPs impress upon this committee to hear out everything whether its rumor or not, then classify the information into verified, corroborated or unsubstantiated.

    Most of the valuable information received in Kenya can easily be passed of as rumour but it usually turns out to have significant amounts of truth. Plus out of fear or reprisal and lack of resources most information can not be verified since documentary evidence would either compromise the security of the whistle-blower or require the individual to have expensive equipment. That is not a good starting point for this committee

    http://www.nationmedia.com/dailynation/nmgcontententry.asp?category_id=1&newsid=121352

  59. Turncoat says:

    just remininscing on the good old days when we had the AGENT for CHANGE the moderator. Then i looked up the defination of agent in the dictionary. ……..acting on behalf of principle …………for consideration/kind/cash.

    Which means that he or she can still be an agent for Change in whatever party he/she chooses to be. Mercenary……………..?????????????
    read as “URGENT FOR CHANGE” (SMALL DENOMINATIONS OF CURRENCY)

    And there i was thinking that i had the best name on the blog. the ultimate TURNCOAT HAS TO BE THE AGENT FOR CHANGE. you see he does it for a fee.

  60. Turncoat says:

    HERE IN GHANA. NPP, AKUFO ADDO, KUFOUR ARE STEALING THE ELECTIONS IN SLOW MOTION. THE CHURCHES HAVE STARTED PLAYING PEACE MESSAGES OVER THE RADIO. I URGE THE GHANANIANS NOT TO FIGHT LIKE THE KENYANS DID.

  61. Turncoat says:

    THE ELECTION IN GHANA AND ELSEWHERE ELSE IN AFRICA IS NORMALLY BETWEEN MEAT EATERS AND VEGETABLE EATERS. MOSTLY BETWEEN THE CARNIVOROUS AND HERBIVORES. AND I SAY HERBIVORES BY FORCE CURCUMSTANCES NOT CHOICE – CANNOT AFFORD.
    OFTEN IT IS THE CARNIVORES WHO SUCCEED. THE HERBIVORES MANY A TIME SPEND TO MUCH TIME GRAZING (LOOKING DOWN – TRIFLE ISSUES- OR SO I MAY CALL THEM , THEY ARE UR HOUSEKEEPERS, GATEKEEPERS, THE MECHANIC, PLUMBER, CLERK, CLEANER, BABY SITTER, ET AL.
    I WILL NOT DWELL ON THE OMIVORES – MIDDLE CLASS OF WHICH JOURNALISTS ARE INCLUDED TODAY. BUT MY PASSING COMMENT WILL ONLY BE IN REFERENCE TO THE TRANSITION AND THEIR ROLE. OFEN THIS CLASS IN AFRICA HAS FAILED AND MANY TIME PRETENDED TO STAND UP FOR PERTINENT ISSUES AFFECTING THE HERBIVORES…………THEY HAVE TRUIMPHED ONLY IN THEIR NEGLECT OF PROFFESIONAL AND ETHICAL DUTIES. BROTHERS AND SISTERS. THE ELECTORAL COMMISION OF GHANA IS MAINLY CONSTITUTED OF OMIVORES. JUST LIKE KENYA THEY WILL SENT PACKING WITH BONES LIKE A PACK OF HYENAS.
    SO SHOULD EVERY ONE BE A CARNIVORE AND STAND ON TOP OF THE PINNACLE OF POWER. A CLOSE STUDY OF PREDATORS WILL TELL YOU OTHERWISE. HYENAS OFTEN KILL LION CUBS TO ENSURE THAT THE THERE IS A CHECK IN THE NUMBER OF MEAT EATERS. IF THE HYENAS DONT GET YOU THEN THE DROUGHT/FAMINES/FIRE, NATURAL DISASTERS WILL……..IN GHANA AND ELSEWHERE IN AFRICA THEY ARE ALSO CALLED THE CAKIVORES (NATIONAL CAKE) PIVORES (PIE).
    STOP VOTING AND CASTING YOUR VOTES FOR THIS WELL KNOW CLASS OF ‘KLEPTOCATS’.
    BE HERBIVORES OR OMIVORES OR EVEN CARNIVORES BY CHOICE – ELECT PROVEN SOCIAL WORKERS. BY THIS WE MUST BE TRUE WORKERS OURSELVES.
    IN MADAGASCAR – A COMEDY I LIKE TO WATCH. WHEN SIMBA RUNS OUT OF MEAT HE DOES NOT EAT HIS BUDDY, THE LION, HE DISCOVERS FISH.

  62. Turncoat says:

    THANKS GOD AND BILL GATES FOR SPELL CHECK.

    The election in Ghana and elsewhere else in Africa is normally between meat eaters and vegetable eaters. Mostly between the carnivorous and herbivores. And I say herbivores by forced circumstances not choice – cannot afford.
    Often it is the carnivores who succeed. The herbivores many a time spend too much time grazing (looking down – trifle issues- or so I may call them , they are ur housekeepers, gatekeepers, the mechanic, plumber, clerk, cleaner, baby sitter, et al.
    I will not dwell on the omivores – middle class of which journalists are included today. But my passing comment will only be in reference to the transition and their role. Ofen this class in Africa has failed and many a time pretended to stand up for pertinent issues affecting the herbivores…………they have triumphed only in their neglect of professional and ethical duties. Brothers and sisters. The electoral commission of Ghana is mainly constituted of omivores. Just like kenya they will be sent packing with bones like a pack of hyenas. Like an assassin they will murder with a pen.
    So should everyone be a carnivore and stand on top of the pinnacle of power. A close study of predators will tell you otherwise. Hyenas often kill lion cubs to ensure that the there is a check in the number of meat eaters. If the hyenas don’t get you then the drought/famines/fire, natural disasters will……..in Ghana and elsewhere in Africa they are also called the cakivores (national cake) pivores (pie).
    Stop voting and casting your votes for this well know class of ‘kleptocats’.
    Be herbivores or omivores or even carnivores by choice – elect proven social workers. By this we must be true workers ourselves.
    In Madagascar – a comedy I like to watch. When simba runs out of meat he does not eat his buddy, the lion, he discovers fish.

  63. Turncoat says:

    N.D.C AND ATTA MILLS HAS BEEN DECLARED THE WINNER.
    GHANA HAS SHOWN THE WAY AGAIN.

  64. tnk says:

    hi turncoat

    hoe you had a good christmas and wish you and other bloggers a happy new year

  65. Turncoat says:

    hi, t,n.k,
    i did and now i hope to visit the I.D.P.s (Herbivores) in Naivasha and possibly highlight their plight. Kenyans should never weild or fashion weapons against one another especially not for this ruminant carnivores who regurgitate vomit (party policies) and present them to us at the end of every five years.
    Having said that i congratulate the DE FACTO president and now Prime Minister elect
    RAILA ODINGA for having had it in mind that KENYA IS BIGGER THAN RAILA OR KIBAKI. Notice he never mentioned KALO……

  66. tnk says:

    keep me posted on the situation with the IDPs if you can,

    the GCG was a tricky balance affair with more chance of egg being rubbed on ODM no matter which way things went. its a wonder that it has gone as far as it has.

    media bill is just an excuse now but the issue of protocol never was resolved ( and i dont mean VP / PM ) PM constantly doing battle with muthaura and the likes and kibaki maintaining distance continues to be a telling sad affair

    question is if the GCG broken, what does the future portend?

    i liked that clip aired by KTN and i think citizen re the election 2007, belated but still good

    anyway usi potee you have my email lets keep in touch

  67. Pablo says:

    Well it is a matter of time, I wass pretty sure that the GCG wasnt going to last. We know Kibaki very well, Sometimes i wonder what sort of a man he is oe who cannot decide for himself, i feel sorry for him, but what we were after was to stop the wanton destruction of lives in January 2008 which Kibaki and the PNU brigade never seemed to have seen or acknowledge for they dont have the human heart, take for example Wenangula how he speaks, what about Poghisio, haha ….and don’t ever forget aka Mutua I mean these are as you may allow me to use this terms “clones in the circus” people who cant read signs in the wall and they purport to be future leaders. Kenyans we need to wake up and shine, I know and you know and the whole world is aware that our democratic rightfully elected leader was deprived from us but is it the end of the road no. This is the time and indeed a very ripe time for us to start sharpening our deadly weapon for pure change that we sort are seeking and are just about to get. There is Light at the end of the tunnel. I hear some people complaining that arap mibei has been bought but i can only tell you fellow Kenyans watch the space. The battle is still up and high and don’t be surprised in the near future if we cross Jordan river to the promised land, kuteleza sio kuanguka. What we need to be sure of is that our votes are everedy anything can happen in the near future and we need to show these pple how the game is played, who can forget Uhuru sentiments, Moi, Karua, Michuki I mean come on men we need not to forget so easily. Brothers from Nyanza be awake and alert lest the thief come by the night and steal our glory, Brothers from Riftvalley the way is one the future is Orange we know what Arap moi deed and we know what he is after, Western bros hoyee we need it we have got it why waste this humble opportunity Coast we are one in the quest, Nairobi msilalae bado mapambano, NorthEastern we have a ministry now thank God what if we had the whole share as it was just ours but a robbery with violence deprived us I mead Eastern provinceyou saw what happened you don’t need to be cheated stand up and vote for policy change not your tribal cahoots we need food in Ukambani Kalonzo was in Mois govt the Mutulas what else will they promise you think twice you need a new leadership that will bring a meaningful change in you lives Central Kenya why grapple with he Mungki menace yet it is your leaders who are the brainchild of this disease that has bedeviled the province since its inception we need to change they way we think about other pple this Kenya is for ever one of us not for Odinga’s, Moi,s, Kenyatta,s, Kibaki’s or any other person’s family it is our Land in totality and we need to take charge. Vote for policy vote for people who can change the way work is done and the way Law is spelt out in this country. Wakenya msilale Bado mapambano.

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