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The pecking order of VP being ahead of the PM, Kenyans can live with, but not the serious implications of a succession “war”. This should have been addressed by ODM’s mediation team.
If Mwai RM Kibaki is incapacitated, the constitution says that Kalonzo should take over as acting president for three months. This is the most dangerous scenario for Kenya.
Orengo failed to see this and they were in a hurry to get plum appointments. Mwai RM and his associates were very happy when Raila penned the accord without raising any objections to the VP being senior in the pecking order to the PM.
The constitution needs to be changed to have the PM as an assistant and not the principal assistant to the president. Since PNU will not agree to this and the over 140 MPs needed to change the constitution will not be there, ODM have to look for ways of preventing Kalonzo from acting president if Mwai RM is incapacitated.
The Bomas Draft may address this issue but there is no hope that it will ever be adopted as Kenya’s constitution.
For now, ODM has to commission a team of top constitution lawyers to find an acceptable out of this dangerous quagmire.
I do not want to sound prejuidiced or racial but the truth is that white people prepare for the future including writting wills. Africans are mostly concerned about now and do not put too much thoght on tomorrow.
WE NEED TO BE SERIOUS……
The following should be of utmost urgency so that alot of issues like pecking order are non-starters…
1.Lets form pressure group whatever…. and make sure we have a new
constitution within a year….politicians forget very easily.
2.It’s a shame that 44 years after people lost lives to defeat the colonialist
we have refugees in our own country…. i don’t care which tribe/tribes they
come from we are all kenyans,……..lets have some decency..
NB .. ..kudos to messer ORENGO they guy is already down to seroius
business…..i wish we had million ORENGOS……..
agree with kk
pecking order is a frivolous, self seeking and egotistic issue. if VP wants to be Kibakis apple in the eye (teachers pet or whatever else) in his advanced age then thats fine, its laughable to even consume time and effort setting up committees to deliberate the issue. These guys earn a million a month and thats not the sort of problem that we envisaged them solving. health, security, education, fundamental human/democratic rights, failed institutions, constitutional amendments, parliamentary calendar, bloated budget /deficit for bloated cabinet and many more serious agenda items.
any juvenile can sort out that protocol mess up
kk and rafiq am still waiting for your email
Ladies and gentlemen,
The day RAO said NO to opposition politics in parliament,
The day RAO and other ODM MPs and councillors failed to condemn and say NO to their followers behaviour of physically killing, maiming and destroying other people property in the name of seeking power,
The day RAO and ODM MPs failed to realise president MK had already designed a coalition government by early January when he announced what he called the 1st half of the cabinet and therefore all the ODM fighting, and their running up and down calling on wazungus to help was all unnecessary,
These are the days ODM and its leaders lost independence and got swallowed by PNU.
Time for domo domo and propaganda is over. Assistant finance minister Dr. Oburu Odinga has just said that the campaign promises were just political gimmicks.
So wananchi swallow the bitter pills, only the hard labour of your hands and your creator will rescue you.
jane you are misleading people with lies, it is not ODMs Oburu Odinga who said that, its the one and only Stephen Kalonzo Musyoka, who made the promises and in parliament is quoted clarifying
i beleive you got that story which you are now butchering here
http://www.nationmedia.com/dailynation/nmgcontententry.asp?category_id=2&newsid=122201
and extract the paragraph(s) where perhaps the blind spot got in your way and were unable to read clearly
“Mr Kiema Kilonzo (Mutito, ODM-K) said Vice-President Kalonzo Musyoka had in his campaigns last year promised that those who lost money in the collapsed schemes would be compensated. “He is now in the Government and could we know if that promise was a mere campaign gimmick?”
The VP concurred, but clarified that the Finance ministry was not responsible for statements made during campaigns.”
I hope its not lost on you that the question being asked is by an ODM-K MP
agent4change is it possible for you to provide us with more current information such as the real agreed on or proposals on the table on this article
ODM has continuously backtracked and ceded lots of ground, I hope this time they can stick to getting more executive authority away from the president,
http://www.nationmedia.com/dailynation/nmgcontententry.asp?category_id=1&newsid=122287
its been said time and time again that there must be real power sharing, and since most of the juicy ministries stayed on PNU side, how about there being real power sharing with the executive powers of the head of state. anyhow regardless, in a few months or years RAO will have those powers and then we can deal with this monster once and for all.
NOW NOW NOW, The pecking order issue is more sensitive than we may think.Hon PM is also undermining the pecking order of Malitia by recognizing mungiki first be4 the RVW and Bagdhad boys.Mr PM we also want you to respect the pecking order as per who you are now, otherwise its not going to be business as usual.
DEAR HON. WILLIAM OLE NTIMAMA,
The fact that you are a minister fo state in the office of the vice president does not matter.
The fact that you are not a substantive minister but a minister of state does not matter.
You have the best opportunity to leave a lasting legacy for the Maasai people. Start action now.
As minister of state for culture and national heritage, appoint a task force to look into ways of preserving Kenyan culture, and in particular Maasai culture, through an institution of higher learning and research.
As a Maasai elder and defender, set up a Board of Trustees to build Maasai Heritage university through world-wide fund-raising efforts.
It is double dipping – with one dipping from the government bowl and the other from the private sector.
I WILL BE PERSONALLY DISSAPOINTED IF YOU LET THIS GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY PASS.
Talk to your fellow ODMer and Cabinet minister, Dr. Sally Kosgei to avail to you a technical committee to work with the Board of Trustees on the establishment of the university.
Whatever differences you have had with Mr. Francis Ole Kaparo, set them aside now and use him for the benefit of the Maasai people.
The Maasai Heritage university fundraising committee can approach tour operators and businesses (such as hotels and lodges throughout Maasai Mara) who have benefitted from tourism and the Maasai people to raise funds so that a team of marathon runners (like in the London Marathon) and speakers can travel the world raising funds for Maasai Heritage university.
In your Board of Trustees, have some resected Kenyan leaders (outside of the Maasai community) such as Dr. Leakey and Prof. Sperling to help advise and attract serious attention world-wide to the Maasai Heritage university venture.
Failure to leave a lasting legacy to the Maasai people by yourself, Hon. Ntimama, will mean that all the efforts you have expended most of your life to honour and prosper the Maasai people will come to nought.
The Maasai Heritage university project has been my dream for many years.
I would have liked to email this plea to you directly but I do not have your email address. I will try to fax it to you.
I also request someone to deliver this message to you and to PM Raila, whom I am confident will want to work with you (in his capacity as an adopted son and elder of the Maasai people after being crowned a Maasai elder in the Suswa meet of last year.
PLEASE HON. WILLIAM OLE NTIMAMA, SEIZE THIS OPPORTUNITY. KENYA RIGHT NOW HAS A SYMPHATETIC EAR AMONGST WORLD COMMUNITY AND LEADERS.
MAKE THE MINISTRY OF HERITAGE VISIBLE AND VIBRANT THROUGH THIS SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT PROJECT.
Yours sincerely,
Maru Kapkatet
CC:
1. Mzee Daniel arap Moi (Remember the Maasai people now in time of need. They honoured you when you ecame president of Kenya and supported you throughout your presidency),
2. Mr. Francis Ole Kaparo (Please arrange for a meet with Hon. Ntimama and let the politics of hostility of years past be set aside. Mr. Kaparo, I believe in you to achieve results
3. PM Hon. Raila Odinga (You have the will and capacity to help the Maasai people consummate this important project. It will be a unique university that will educate as well as preserve.
It will be a unique university that will be flexible in bring education to the Maasai people in their manyattas and wherever they have taken their cattle for grazing.
It will be a unique university in that it will work with the Maasai people to preserve their heritage while helping them keep pace with the world in terms of modern development
DEAR HON. KIRAITU MURUNGI, MINISTRY OF ENERGY
PLEASE ADD WOOD AND CHARCOAL TO THE LIST OF ENERGY SOURCES (ELECTRICITY, OIL/PETROL, GAS, AND DIESEL) THAT YOUR MINISTRY DEALS WITH.
ALLOCATE SOME FUNDS TO A TEAM FROM OUR UNIVERSITIES TO GATHER STATISTICS AND TRENDS ON THE USE OF FIREWOOD AND CHARCOAL FOR COOKING IN KENYA. THERE IS A REAL DANGER THAT MANY KENYANS ARE FINDING IT INCREASINLY HARD TO FIND FIREWOOD OR CHARCOAL FOR COOKING.
IF THE GOVERNMENT CAN HAVE THE FACTS ON THE USE OF THESE TWO SOURCES (ACTUALLY ONE SOURCE SINCE WOOD AND CHARCOAL ARE ONE AND SAME) OF ENERGY, THEN IT CAN PUT IN PLACE MEASURES, IN COLLABORATION WITH THE MINISTRIES OF FORESTRY AND AGRICULTURE, TO ENSURE THE SUSTAINABILITY OF THIS RENEWABLE RESOURCE.
to solve the protocol problems
PM and VP should not attend the same public functions in a capacity where they need to be called on in their respective positions which generates the overlap/ambiguity.
As to the question if Muturaa (kilonzo) should be allowed to draft the pecking oda, i think not. First he is hugely biased by political lineage and secondly i seriously doubt his capacity to do so mainly because of the portfolio (i have not even mentioned his other duties as a director of various companies, and ofcourse duties as a DAD) he now holds. I see him tabling half baked proposals which will either be rejected or debated for prolonged periods. At the end of 3 years he will earn his fees and we will be in the oppositon anyway.
Give this work to Univeristy dons and intellectuals in this field. I suggest the former L.S.K CHAIRMAN – ( OF SOMALI ORIGIN – sorry that i have forgetten his name) should be given the task.
ATWOLI STOLE THE SHOW. TWO HOURS OF VOCAL FARTING AND THE MASSES GOT NOTHING. WE ARE WAITING FOR JUNE 1ST TO CHEER OUR PRESIDENT. SPEEDY RECOVERY.
The focus should be also be focused on the bougerning of the Mungiki. The govt should come out and tell us between the Police and the Mungiki, WHO IS PECKING WHO.
In my opinion there is nothing to solve , even little children know that kibaki and raila are equal partners Kalonzo does not come anywhere in the equation , this is just another attempt by the gema stalwrats to water dow n the National peace accord , did you hear what michuki said , their is more to come but lets trust our captain’s leadership he has brought us this far and he is not about to let us down now.My big question is doesn’t kibaki think of life after state house.
HOW KALONZO CAN BEAT RAILA FOR THE PRSIDENCY:
If Mwai Kibaki is incapacitated – dies or becomes seriously ill that he cannot perform the duties of president – and is removed from the presidency OR for some reason is impeached (a remote possibility but a possibility all the same), Kalonzo Musyoka, being the VP, will act, under the current constitution for 90 days. He will then have appointed Uhuru Kenyatta as his VP and will go into the next presidentail elections the strongest of all presidential candidates.
Kalonzo will even be a stronger presidential candidate if Mwai Kibaki leaves the presidency before 2012 and if the new constitution will have been enacted and if this new constitution specifies that when the president is removed, the VP takes over as president for the remaining period, then Kalonzo will become unbeatable.
HOW UHURU KENYATTA CAN BEAT KALONZO AND RAILA FOR THE PRESIDENCY:
If Mwai Kibaki can shuffle his Cabinet and appoint Uhuru Kenyatta as VP and then Kibaki steps down, Uhuru will act, under the current constitution for three months. (There will be a lot of outcry but it will not last for long as 90 days is not a long time to continue fighting somebody over). If Uhuru Kenyatta appoints William Ruto as his VP (there is no living Kenyan politician that I know of who will not seize a golden opportunity to get power, a lot of power), then Uhuru Kenyatta will become unbeatable.
What can persuade Mr. William Ruto to agree to be Uhuru’s VP is that things are not guaranteed with the Raila side. While Luo Nyanza and Rift Valley will come out in large numbers to vote for Raila, the Western province is not rock solid. Mr. Musalia Mudavadi did not deliver the vote to Mr. Raila Odinga in the last elections and there is no guarantee that he will do so.
If Uhuru Kenyatta is acting president, Mr. William Ruto will easily agree to be his VP. Despite parting ways just before last December, there has been no evidence of open hostility between Uhuru Kenyatta and Mr. William Ruto. There is also nothing major that Uhuru Kenyatta can be accused of having done to hurt or harm other communities.
I have heard some suggestions trying to link Uhuru to Mungiki but I cannot believe such stories because Uhuru does not look to be the type to hurt life. He is also not of the greedy type looking at the ministerial appointments from his Kanu.
HOW RAILA WILL BEAT KALONZO, UHURU, SAITOTI INDIVIDUALLY OR IN ANY OF THEIR COMBINATIONS OF PREZ-VP-PM
Mwai Kibaki serves until 2012 (I give Mwai Kibaki a few more months of visibility after which he will basically not there on his own but piggybacking on PM Raila) during which time, Raila is the one running the country and bonding with the people.
Mwai Kibaki has two problems: Mwai Kibaki’s first problem is that he does not fully apprecaite that the USA, UK, and EU governments know that it is Raila Odinga who won the presidency and not him (Mwai Kibaki). There is no way a leader of a poor African country can fool the rich and powerful nations whom they depend on for handouts and survival.
Secondly, Mwai Kibaki is a man whose pride is unbridled. The Book of Proverbs say: “Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall. Better it is to be of an humble spirit with the lowly, than to divide the spoil with the proud.
— Proverbs 16: 18-19 (KJV)
On a number of occassions, Mwai Kibaki, has been recorded as telling the people of Kenya, “I will not remove so and so. What will you do”. Of course, there is nothing the people can do other than turn to God, and say as in Psalm 94:1, “O Lord God, to whom vengeance belongeth; O God, to whom vengeance belongeth, shew thyself” because there is nothing we can do.
Some examples of Mwai Kibaki’s instances of extreme pride:
1. He has refused to heed the people of Kenya’s cries for justice and retire his old (past 55 years of age) friends, some of whom have done injustices against Kenyan children.
2. He has refused to shuffle his Foreign Affairs minister, who is not only hurting Kenya internationally, but is not capable of projecting a united Cabinet and government to the international community. You may talk of sovereignty but you need the USA, UK, JICA, and EU funds to put Kenya back on track. Belittling the USA ambassador as a “junior ambassador” not worthy of as much attention as those of “UK, Burundi, Rwanda” will hurt Kenya immensely.
Kimunya will keep knocking on their doors asking them to honour their pledges but they will not open.
3. Mwai Kibaki is too proud to concede, even privately, that Mr. Raila Odinga beat him in the 2007 presidential elections and for him (Kibaki) to leave a positive thing for Kenya, he has to work hand-in-hand with Mr. Raila Odinga to attract as much much funds and business to Kenya after the sad happenings of the last several months.
Ms. Condoleezza Rice told Mwai Kibaki that it cannot be “business as usual”. Mr. Raila Odinga is now well-positioned (better than Mr. John Githongo ever was) to fight corruption in government. The international community are there to make sure that Mr. Ringera avails a report to PM Raila speedily or else the donors’ purses will stay zipped up.
4. Other instances of Mwai Kibaki’s show of extreme pride:
a) Livondo is brought to ride in the elevator with Raila in a message that says, “Raila, utafanya nini”
b) During the Cabinet swearing-in, the commandant of the AP was sitting in the front row to show Raila that the man who presided over rigging and executions was right before his eyes. the message dor Raila was “utafanya nini”
HOW RAILA ODINGA MAY BE PREVENTED FROM BECOMING THE PRESIDENT OF KENYA:
I) Through assasination. This may look remote but it is a possibility. Raila has to put in place measures to verify that those security who guard him and/or his family do not have extra-curricular plans
Secondly, the preferred mode of transportation in Kenya by top politicians is helicopter. Every time something to do with plane crashes somewhere in Kenya or elsewhere is reported, I think about Raila’s safety. The recent death of South Sudan’s defence minister propmted me to think about Raila’s safety.
II) Through poisoning. It is a good possibility that someone somewhere may be planning or has planned to eleiminate Raila this way. When Raila went to Germany for medical treatment recently, I was praying that the “brief medical procedure” was not something related with food poisoning.
Maru,
Two thots cam to my mind when reading ur last post. One the fallacy that the struggle will end with Raila’s death. . Should ANYONE try to assaninate raila to slow down the struggle – THEN RWANDA WILL BE LIKE CHILDPLAY. During my growing up i have seen those who struggled join the oppresor- Ngugi wa Thiongo (Still my best author), Koigi, Keen, Kiraitu, Dalmas Otieno,- But what has raised my hope are the ones who were previously insulated with the system but have now turned revolutionary. So long as there is no affordable Schooling, Food, Shelter, Security, for all Kenyans, (including Mungikis) the fight willl continue. The killing of Kenyans for the political affilition or tribal lineage is unacceptable and should never be allowed to re-occur. My a politician have cried for BLOOOD LETTING AND YET DO NOT EVEN HAVE THE COURAGE TO DONATE BLOOD FOR VICTIMS IN THE HOSPITALS.
Secondly
40 odd years down the line we still do not have a hospital that can treat an eye ailment for our prime minister. The govt should up its socks and prepare this country for MEDICAL TOURISM in the 21st Century.
Mwai Kibaki, you do not have answers to every problem in Kenya. Let others help.
National cohesion should not be under the ministry of justice and constitutional affairs but should have been under special programmes.
I do not understand why the government is taking too long to appoint the ethnic relations commission members.
KENYA NEEDS RECONCILIATION IN RIFT VALLEY AND EVERYWHERE ELSE IN THE COUNTRY. WHEN YOU HAVE A COUNTRY WHERE VOTING IN ELECTIONS IS BASED ON ETHINICITY, THEN THAT COUNTRY IS A DIVIDED COUNTRY.
PROF. WANGARI MATHAI, LT. GEN. SUMBEIYWO, BETHWEL KIPLAGAT ARE SOME EMINENT KENYAN INDIVIDUALS WHO CAN RECONCILE AND UNITE KENYANS.
IT IS GOOD TO SEE ID KENYANS RETURN TO THEIR HOMES AND BUSINESSES BUT WHAT IS NOT VISIBLE IS THE CONSTANT FEAR AND FEELIING OF INSECURITY THAT THEY HAVE TO BEAR ON A DAILY BASIS. THERE IS SUSPICION AMONGST VARIOUS KENYAN ETHNIC GROUPS AND THIS WILL INTENSIFY RATHER THAN WANE BECAUSE KENYANS ARE ALREADY LOOKING AT POST-KIBAKI KENYA.
WHY IS IT HARD FOR MWAI KIBAKI TO APPOINT PROF. WANGARI MATHAI AND LT. GEN. SUMBEIYWO TO LEAD A TEAM OF RESOURCEFUL KENYANS TO START YESTERDAY THE PROCESS OF RECONCILIATION AND BONDING OF KENYANS.
I KNOW THAT MWAI KIBAKI DOES NOT WANT KENYA TO APPEAR TO BE DIVIDED. FOR MWAI KIBAKI, “IT IS NOT GOOD FOR BUSINESS. THE ECONOMIC OUTLOOK IS GOOD AND KENYA DOES NOT WANT TO ATTRACT EVEN THE SLIGHTEST NEGATIVE PUBLICITY”
A stable and growing Kenya is only possible if the problems that have been yanked out courtsey of election fraud will only get worse as Kenyans starting looking past Kibaki.
Maru,
I agree with some of your view above. However, your blame for mzee Kibaki is missplaced. Even Mzee Daniel Moi asked the Kalenjin to allow back the IDPs to return to their land. Then the long journey to reconciliation and injustices will be addressed once an for all. You cannot do that task when people are living in the camps. Remember that these guys are people not animals.
You watch Gideon Moi and his stake in RV politics. Anyone who writes this guy of will be in for a shock of the century. He will be back in the next election as the Tugen will start to realize the futility of the ODM euphoria. Some will start running to Moi as they are presently doing. ODM does not have the capacity to sustain the momentum and the promises they made before the elections. Now that people will be back in their land and there will be no exclusive Kalenjin jimbo.
I was taken aback by the animal inside James Orengo, the new minister for lands. I think the old university student days child has been awakened. A wise thing for the minister to have done was to insitute a commission to identify the “idle land” outside RV and then tell the government to purchase the same for the Kikuyus and Kisiis. I am sure he got into the politics of the moment and did not mind how he was hurting those people.
I have to admitt here in this blogg that this is the happiest moment in my entire adult life. To see those people go back to their lands and once again start living a good life. I will always stand for them against the aggressors. At the same time, as a Christian, I will encourage for forgiveness and reconciliation and for the Kalenjin to have their historical grievances addressed. But never, never again should Kenyans butcher each other whatever their feelings.
WHY MOSES WETANGULA IS ANNOYING:
I am currently engulfed in studying Mr. Moses wetangula, Kenya’s minister for foreign affairs. The material to be studied is aplenty and fascinating.
Through my study, I have discovered very interesting facts and trends. I am now in a position to answer any questions on Mr. Wetangula.
For example:
QUESTION: Who appointed Moses Wetangula as foreign affairs minister?
ANSWER: Martha Karua
QUESTION: What relationship (professional or political) does Martha Karua have with Moses Wetangula?
ANSWER: The minor reason is that they are both lawyers, were either year-mates or school-mates in law school, and both tended to radicalism at the university but the major reason why Martha Karua has developed a close working relationship with Moses is that she has seen in him a great investment.
QUESTION: What investment is Martha seeing in Moses that she wants to exploit.
ANSWER: Ownership. Martha has seen that a trend of ownership is possible here. Martha has studied, and she is very sharp, and found that in Kenya it is possible for the president to own a minister or even for one minister to own another.
QUESTION: What examples of ownership of ministers could Martha have stumbled on or discovered?
ANSWER: Total Man (Nick) owned the late minister from Bungoma. There is no question about it. TM, former owner of HZ (or is he still the owner?) also owned the man from Bungoma. Then came Kibaki who had no problem taking ownership of Musikari Kombo.
Remember that at one time, Mr. Kombo pretended to be tough and gave Kibaki a list of offices Mr. Kombo wanted his supporters to be appointed to.
In a facade of humility, Kibaki took Kombo’s list and as soon as he was inside State House, he threw the piece of paper into the burning fire in the beautiful fireplace in the new eastern wing.
Despite being taken for a ride, Kombo continued to support Kibaki even sacrificing his own parliamentary seat for the sake of Kibaki. It was total loyalty. Martha knows it and is going for it too.
QUESTION: What will it benefit Martha to own Wetangula?
ANSWER: Martha Karua is seriously considering running for president on a Narc-Kenya ticket whenever the next presidential elections are called. She needs a dependable ownee from western Kenya to help her bid and Moses fits the deal very well.
QUESTION: Why are some leading politicians from western province availing themselves to be owned by others and why can they not be ambitious enough to use their offices to cultivate their own identity and seek the top office for themselves?
ANSWER: This is a million-dollar question to which I have no answers but one thing I can say with certainty is this: If the people of Kenya can watch very closely what Moses does and say, they will discover that it either mimics Martha’s or is statement of what she wants said.
Kriegler Commision, Truth and Reconciliation commision, Commision to look into the recent KNEC results, Devil Worship Commsion, and a commision to look into the prison warders affairs. These have become the biggest holes in our treasury.
Why for example should Kaongo Musyoka V.P (Vice Pain in the Ass) insist in forming a commision for the prison warders when Moody Awori says that there have been previous commisons’ reports and what remains is just implementation of those reports. I can bet you a Willy that this will be a way of appointing his cronies.
Do we need the Kriegler commision even when healing has just started and despite their declaration that they will not delve into the issue of the winner of the last elections. We know that that Kibaki is the only Kenyan President that was sworn at a private ceremony in the NIGHT. (And just to prove that im not out of context, ) Even the commisioner of Prisons was not there. It is rumoured that the Kriegler Commsion will use close to 350Million. Did some say that the IDPS need more money ?
ODM followers,
Be informed that SIMPLE MINDS discuss people.
Be informed that SIMPLE MINDS use emotions, fightings, to resolve perceived differences between them and those of their perceived enemies. GREAT MINDS use LOGIC and REASON to resolve differences.
SIMPLE MINDS abuse and insult wazee’s including Mzee Mwai Kibaki. GREAT MINDS respect wazee’s, children and women.
SIMPLE MINDS use cheap propaganda to seek popularity. GREAT MINDS talk less but sure.
Amen
a thief forfeits any right for respect
“THE COALITION” SOMETHING IS MISSING IN THIS EQUATION
I still believe the coalition needs a thorough discussion, a real decision through further constitution amendment and a commitment by not only Kibaki and Raila but also by the key Railalets and Kibkilets.
Just to show how many Kenyans are left wondering what is up? Dr. Paul Nyandoto writes ” coalition governments are not forever neither are they permanent you can not change the whole
constitution of a country just for the period of that coalition”
while Mchoma Moenga states and I quote “Unfortunately, the accord, now an Act of Parliament, is very dilute and vague on the exact and definite role and rank of the Prime Minister. ….. you
will realize that it did not repeal anything of the existing constitution. Words and statements like “equal share” and “coordinate and supervise” are as superfluously vague as vague can be. Thus the tussles as to whether power sharing starts and ends at the appointment of the cabinet, or does it extend to the appointment of senior civil service officers, ambassadors, heads of parastatals, etc. Then the simmering issue of rank: Does the VP rank higher than the PM?”.
The two are just amongst many interlectuals who have read the coalition and come out as confused as I am. Mutula Kilonzo and Martha Karua, former respected lawyers as well are so confused to an extent that they apply the law only when it is anti Kibaki’s inner cirle decision. At one point, they are aware of the PM’s power and at another they do not give a damn about the existence of the PM and who is who in the government they serve. Which way are we haeding to my brothers? Who is right in this? Is it Orengo and Anyang Nyongo or Karua and Kilonzo
To me it looks like intellect of these leaders is mesmerized by information and confused by the side there bread and power comes from to an extent that they are completely unable to theorize about the future in the presence of the now. If you privately cornered Martha Karua or Kilonzo, I believe they will confide in you to state that they have no idea what is going on. I think I would be correct to state that the masses are totally lost because their leaders have blindfolded themselves. If these mps we elected in office are the ones we expect to run our government then I am sorry to say that the government of Kenya is lost and confused. We are like goats without shephereds.
Yes we have some “peace” now, yes we have the prime minister, the president and the rest. However, why have our leaders not taken time to tie down the coalition amendment with the current constitution of Kenya so that the two laws can agree with each other? Didn’t many faught and died to ensure that the rule of law becomes supreme and above individuals? Kenya as the land of intellectuals must sort out this mess once and for all.
For us to have Raila crying foul infront of the masses and that everybody, including professor George Saitoti iare unable to fugure out the mathematics of this coalition then something big is missing my friends. The missing link is what I would like to point out here. The legislatures have failed to tie down or harmonise the law of Kenya with the coalition amendment laws. The must do this now before we start seeing another blood shed. We are tired of blood on our streets. This harmonization can only happen if both sides agree that none of them is in this to outwitt the other but to stick with this and uphold the constitution to the end of the term. This coalition as we know cannot survive the life of parlament (five years) except by a miracle. The reason is that there are so many reactions that may lead to very very bad outcomes. Amongst them are
1. Who is the government. Is it the president, the prime minister or the prime minister and the president. Is it PNU or ODM
2. What happens if the president ignore coalition amendment and use his constitutional powers to fire the prime minister just like any other minister?
3. What happens when MPS defect from ODM and join PNU there by making PNU to be the party with the majority. Does Raila and Kibaki change roles then?
4. What happens if Raila and Kibaki simply disagree. Yes it is stated that one party can pull out. Then what?
5. What happens if the president dies. Who becomes incharge.
6. How long is the coalition term. Is it two or five or ten years. Can it survive even one year?
A nation without laws is a chaotic village. It is time for the PNU and ODM legislatures to do something. I refuse to accept this quagmire. I refuse to depend on personalities. In a land of people with different intellectual capacities, the law becomes our only friend. We must institutionalize it and defend it.
Dr. Barack Abonyo
Agreed Jane,
Logic should be used even when discussing people.
Ahmed Abdinassir is the former L.S.K Chairman that i was vouching as the best suited for designing the PECKING ODA. i relished article on this issue on SUNDAY STANDARD this week. He objectively defined the roles and powers of the P.M and v.p. I again insist that this great mind should not only be used in the drafting of the pecking ODA but also in the constitutiional review.
cOME GUYZ WHO DOES NOT KNOW WHO IS WHO IN THE kENYAN POLITICS. KALANZOS ARE DAY DREAMING, THE PUNUS ARE HALLUCINATED SO PLS ODMS BRIGADE LET US PUT THE RIGHT GEARS WE KNOW THEM WE HAVE THEM AND HAVE LEARNT ALL THEIR TRICKS SO WHY DONT WE USE THEY WEAK POINTS TO ROLL THE WHOLE ISSUE BACK HOME YES WE CAN WE DID IT AND WE WILL DO IT LET US PUT THE ACTS TOGETHER AND PUSH AHEAD THANKS BOYS THANKS GALZ AND MAY ALMIGHTY JAH BLESS ALL ODMERS
Jane
Your so called sophisticated minds should respect wazees, children, men , women and simple minded people enough to a point where they respect their democratic rights and the leader they voted for.Respect is a two way traffic.
Logic also has it that Kibaki could not lost in six provinces and win the elections. Our beloved Great minded Mzee Kivuitu FOUGHT ALL PERCIEVED DIFFERENCES AND REASONS overiding ALL CHEAP PROPAGANDA TO SEEK POPULARITY and handed the presidency of our simple minded Kenyans to ……..Our beloved.
Uchi wa Mzee haufunikwi kwa Gomba la ndizi.
This year there was no minimum wage increase because chaos ………..chaos which would not have been there if elections were free and fair.
Reason why 2007 elections were unnecessary
the people we wanted out, somehow still worming their way back
http://www.communication.go.ke/media.asp?id=571&media_type=2
luckily Moody Awori declined, but so far Madoka is back , and now Tuju and Kibwana, next it will be Njenga Karume and who knows who else
Remember Kibakis words, give me “clean MPs” to form a govt, and the people did, and now he is out fishing from the muddy rivers, all the rejects
KALONZO MUSYOKA’S SHELF LIFE TOO SHORT:
Kalonzo Musyoka is slowly but surely fading. UHe was used for only four months and is now being discarded as soon as Kibaki feels he is secure. Kivutha Kibwana is in and Kalonzo is out.
The pecking order will assume its natural form with the PM as the co-number one and number two laeder in Kenya.
As long as Kalonzo Musyoka was working with Raila, he (Kalonzo) was a winner. He left Raila and ODM and he is now like the dik-dik facing a lion. During the referendum days, Kalonzo compared himself to a dik-dik who will never be pinned down.
The lion threatening Kalonzo is determined, eager, and able to get his prey. What advice for our runaway brother from the referendum ODM?
My best advice to Steve is that it is not too late to come back home to ODM and work closely with Raila. It will be a win-win situation for him and Raila.
Looks like PNU and Narck-K do not wish to own Kalonzo. What does it mean to “own” a politician in Kenya? Owning another politician and specifically a minister in Kenya means that the owned person ceases to have independent thoughts and stand on issues but speak and do what the owner wants.
I am happy with Kombo. He is slowly moving towards the Raila team. When I look at Kenya, what do I see? I see the PM becoming the focal point and pillar of the Kenya government.
I see a Kibaki who is becoming more and more irrelevant as days tick by. I see a waxing Raila and a waning Kibaki. Kibaki brought in Kivutha Kibwana and Raphael Tuju to spy on the PM. I bet that they will both end up working for Raila.
It makes sense then for the discerning Kenyan politicians – ministers, assistant ministers, and members of parliament to rally around Raila and support his efforts to improve delivery of services to Kenyans and bring about the urgently-needed reforms.
Maru you are right brother.
VIAGER IS FRENCH SYSTEM OF HANDING OVER PERSONAL HOME TO A YUONG
ONE WHO IS READY TO WAIT FOR YOUR DEATH IN EXCHANGE TO HIS MONEY
BUT IN MOST CASES THE YOUNGER USED TO DIE AFTER PAYING THE OLD MAN
WHO REFUSED TO DIE.WE HAVE CASES WHERE BY THE OLD HAVE THREE TO FOUR VIAGER.-opado
MARU…
For once can we stop consipiracy theories and know that kenya is bigger than anybody,we are trying to build a new kenya where everybody brings wealth of ideas and non-tribal affiliations.
like it or not kenya is for all of us,so while i like your theories, sometimes they go too far from what we are advocating. KENYA 4 ALLL.
GOD BLESS KENYA Y ES WE CAN.
Maru and Tnk,
Tnk started as a political activists and at times very reasonable. But of late, I think you and and Maru have developed very serious political fatigue. You need to take a sabatical from this blogg because of late your arguments are what you like to call “juvenile” and lacking in substance. Instead of forever complaining about what is wrong with our country, why not start to encourage our people roll up their sleeves and work hard. For example, why not encourage people to take advantage of the agriculture loan by equity bank and start serious farming in Nyanza ( you are against equity but now it is headed to Uganda and will recieve heroe wellcome). Secondly, why be in a campaign mood for another 5 years? Get down to work and face the serious hunger that is just around the corner!
Maru is again wrong on Kalonzo Musyoka. I tell you that this man is slowly but surely readying for 2012 and will be a serious contender for the top seat without any doubt. You may say all you want to say but the man is here to stay and after the VP miracle, the next miracle will be greater!
Thirdly, (not peckin order), I am encouraged by the current ressetlement of IDPs. This was the most reasonable thing to do if we must face the Kenya crisis head on. Firsly, it is a blow to politics of hate especially by the Kalenjin MPs. How can they continue to advocate for human beings to continue in their inhuman conditions so that they can start to talk to their people? I think the best way to initiate reconciliation is when the enemies are together. They must be told in no uncertain terms that the IDPs are there to stay. The agressors are people and must be made to understand that the IDPs are not going anywhere and that they do not belong to camps or central province or Kisii. After the resettlement, I doubt that any other people from central province will be willing to buy land in Uasin Gishu or Kericho.
Lastly, at least the IDPs will plough their land, plant food and feed their families and if extra food remain, they will sell it and make a kill.
Railka
you evidently have never had anything but IDP on your mind so stop pretending to play intellectual, you just dont have it and probably never will
I have to give it to Kibaki he never forgets his die hard supporters. Latest Ndingi Mwana wa Sneki has been put in-charge of the 29B IDP Kitty. Archbishop bado tunakupenda.
I meant Ndingi Mwana wa Nzeki
Long time guys! I have made serious reflections over the last few weeks when access to this blog has been difficult if not discouraging.
The more things remain change, the more they remain the same. We thought people would take advantage of the economic disparities and develop themselves too before 2012. May be am impatient but the trends are worrying. Found out no KCC in Nyanza! Now the MOAgric is under ODM but the people still want oppsition!
Some losers are now special advisors on the very issues for which they lost elections. Its just creating jobs for friends.
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For the pecking order really I dont care because its obvious!
Finally for RailK and the special IDPs, worry about 2012 or referendum, not the resettlement now. If the young men in jails are not released, they will be released at least officially during the next elections if not earlier.
TAKE NOT YOUR OWN REVENGE, SAYS THE LORD (Romans 12:19)
From January through March of this year, many Kenyan families were in mourning and pain, weeping over their loved ones who had been cut down by Chinese waepons and ammunitions.
Today, China is in mourning over the victims of the massive earthquake that devastated their country.
While I join people of the world in mourning with the Chinese people, it is my wish and prayer that this natural calamity will remind the Chinese people that life is precious – it is precious for them, it is also precious for Kenyans and for Zimbabweans and for the Sudanese.
AMOS KIMUNYA TO APPEAR BEFORE PARLIAMENTARY FINANCE COMMITTEE:
It is great to read that the arrogant and ethnocentric Amos Kimunya is so humble these days that he begs to appear before the Finance committee to explain circumstances surrounding the Grand Regency hotel.
A few days ago, Mwai Kibaki was showing off his and his associates’ latest acquisition – the Grand Regency hotel. Mwai Kibaki was at the hotel signing some financial agreement to help Kenya farmers access loans.
What was amazing is that Mwai Kibaki chose to go to a private premise to transact government business which should have been done at Harambee house. When I read the story, I was so amused that some leaders become so blinded by greed that they want to show off their loot.
It reminded me of a parable in the Bible which Jesus told in Luke 12:16-19.
16And he told them this parable: “The ground of a certain rich man produced a good crop.
17He thought to himself, ‘What shall I do? I have no place to store my crops.’
18″Then he said, ‘This is what I’ll do. I will tear down my barns and build bigger ones, and there I will store all my grain and my goods.
19And I’ll say to myself, “You have plenty of good things laid up for many years. Take life easy; eat, drink and be merry.” ‘
20″But God said to him, ‘You fool! This very night your life will be demanded from you. Then who will get what you have prepared for yourself?’
And these days, Mr. William Ruto gets prominent coverage from sections of the Kenya media – more coverage than that of any other minister. I hope Mr. Ruto is aware of some subtle strategy that PNU uses to “flatter, win over, and use” or “flatter, win over, and destroy”.
I have confidence that Mr. William Ruto and indeed all other ODM ministers and assistant ministers will be street-smart as well as book-smart to see into any PNU selfish designs. It is my hope that they will serve Kenyans with dedication without abandoning ODM ideals and dreams.
I was disappointed that Mr. William Ruto did not mention anything about how the Agricultural Finance Corporation fits into the deal Mwai Kibaki signed. It would appear to me that Equity Bank and not AFC will be responsible for disbursing the loans to farmers.
I was also disappointed that Mr. Ruto did not mention anything about the insurance scheme that Raila talked abou alot during last year’s campaigns. Mr. Raila Odinga had indicated that there will be an insurance scheme to help farmers in the repayment of loans if their crops fail or the animals they buy with the loans die.
Equity Bank may be having some extra-curricula plans to have farmers lose their land – the collateral they will be using to secure loans – as they fail to service the loans. During Kenyatta’s presidency, many farmers in Rift Valley lost their land to banks.
M.Ruto has to protect farmers.
Also, Mr. Ruto has to look into the issue of the Kericho Tea plantations saga where many senior local employees where removed from their jobs when Kibaki became president in 2003. They were removed from their jobs and replaced by members of one ethnic group. Mr. William Ruto has to make an arrangement to meet with these victims of Mwai Kibaki’s tribalism amd ensure that there is some justice for them.
OPEN LETTER TO MARU KAPKATET…
It’s about time you start putting posts which nurtures national cohesion and helps to uplift all kenyans despite of their tribal affiliations……
Even when you are critizising for issues do it in a constructive manner which will help us all…….kenya is for everybody to enjoy liberties, created equal by our creator and guaranteed in our constitution…….
Our PM recently told people that this is our govt. and no longer in opposition..hence lets use all our God given power to support and work hard to build our country……….
Some of your theories don’t just add up and it’s unfair to use this forum to recreate them as real……it’s just creates mistrust and bad feelings ,the same evils we are trying to fight for the survival and development of our country…
GOD BLESS…
Lets not mistake the grand opposition for political interference in the working of the govt and key – PARASTATALS. Many know that there is alot of clamour from people who just want to dip their fingers in the cookie jars.
As for the opposition, i would say that many people remember the PHROPHET and forget the MESSAGE. We have not yet achieved the ideals that our founding fathers sought for us. Worse still is that the rails and ways that were set up to achieve these ideal and noble goals are dilapidated with no effort to revive them. OUR CONSTITUTION’S AMMENDMENT IS NO LONGER IN THEIR AGENDA.
LIKE NGUGI SAYS IN HIS BOOK SAYS IN HIS BOOK – WE MAY JUST HAVE A DEVIL ON THE CROSS.
To ABABU Namwamba – There is a saying -DONT JUMP OVER THE FIRE IF YOU HAVE A HAIRY ASS .
MR. MODERATOR SIR,
I SUGGEST YOU USHER IN THE TOPIC OF GRAND OPPOSITION. THE CURRENT TOPIC HEADING IS A PECKER.
NEVER DID I THINK WE WERE JUST FIGHTING AND DIEING FOR A SELFISH NON-VISIONARY MAN OF RAILA MAKING.RAILA SHOULDNT AND I SAY SHOULDNT THINK OF GETTING VOTES FROM THE GREATER RIFT VALLEY AGAIN.
He should read the below protest note from his diehard supporter Duncan Ojwang
RAILA, STOP DAMAGING YOURSELF
Published May 15th, 2008 in Africa News.
I am tired of this casigations of anybody who disagree with Raila. Any body with sense will admit that Raila has grossly mis managed the threat of forming opposition. What is the reason for adressing this honorable members on PNU media and giving them ultimutum. His argument that this guys should resign before forming opposition is absurd. Why did he not resign himself when he moved from ODM to ODM-PNU alliance.
Even if the government defeat the bill you might only win the battle but not the war. Since the chicken have come home to rooste, what is Raila going to do with there mis-trust. You can not always lock them up like we did with there consent following election of the speaker. And then going everywhere saying that top ODM leaders (everybody knows whom you are reffering to) wanted Kenya divided, but yourself and Kibaki being the patriots you are rejected this idea
Let me tell you, that at this at this rate you will be damaged, that even Luo’s might not want to touch you with a 12 feet pole come 2012. And then come to Kisumu with two message for Luo’s ; stop “chuki” and that he came to prepare Kibaki visitation. I thought you are Prime-Minister Raila and not Kibaki’s minister? Act like it, stop fighting Musyoka for being Kibaki’s assistant. It seems everybody things higher of your position and status than yourself, I don’t think you grasp what 50 % means. Telling us to stop “chuki” either is purely a proble with your kiswahili vocabulary or
throwing us under the bus and being very un-grateful, you are glad I assume it is the first one.
Let me remind you Raila, it is our “chuki” which got you the Premiership, if you can only occupy the seat for God’s sake and stop trying to be Kibaki’s assistant. And it is people like Ababu who fought for you to get that position, the guy even took an oath of allegiance to you, so why turn
him to your enemy. The least you can do to is support his humble ambition. My theory is that you (Raila) needs to blame us (luo’s). Instead of putting you to task and asking you tough questions with your “zig- zag” politics for the 15 years, we never asked you for explanation. While we asked everybody else to explain themselves, Raila “mawuod Odinga” did not have to do anything. We only trused that though I do not see the way, you knows best and I will know at the end of the journey that you knew it all, simply trust your heart. We also demanded of our Luo MP’s to never question Raila. The problem is that you are trying the same with this 100 ODM MP’s, good luck with that sir.
Their is a myth amongst luo’s that there is a young man who was sentenced to life imprisonment without any chance of parole for robbery. With tears in his eyes he asked the court the privilege to privately address his mother for the last time. This young man asked the mother to lent her
ears but instead of whispering to it the scrupulous young man bit it. The moral of this story is, the mother never told him he was making a mistake, thereby leading him to believe he was right. Far be it removed from what Raila is doing but the tenets are the same.
Shame on you Raila, if the first people you are fighting for are Mungiki, ignoring that this people have 9 ministers on voted for you amidst such a great risk, but are now bombed and in shock and awe. How do you feel when Muite who is of a different party affiliation demands of you not only to reconcile with Mungiki but the Sabaot Land Defense.
DUNCAN OJWANG
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Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 02:17:23 -0400
From: DUNCAN OJWANG
Subject: RAILA, STOP DAMAGING YOURSELF
Raila has totally lost out on the issue of grand opposition. He will regret the day he made the reckless remarks against ODM Mps. I am so disappointed by his approach. Let him be consulting Orengo and Ruto before making such remarks.
Yegos,
Do not get very very very angry with RAO. RAO is just that way. Never stable. Never static. Just a reminder of some of RAO’s political genesis, FORD > FORD-K > NDP (Tinga Tinga) > Kanu > LDP > NARC > ODM-K > ODM > ????.
RAO could as well abandon ODM. Who cares.The man has achieved a big title. what else do you expect him to think about. So if you are looking for stability in ODM and RAO you are looking for it in the wrong place.
You should also blame yourself and get very angry at yourself for not taking time to assess the son of Odinga, Mr. Raila and those promises made by RAO and his pentagon group before the elections. What is Rao’s past ( eg a foiled coup), were those promises made by RAO and his pentagon really realistic or just ODM fever and euphoria?.
ODM ( Odinga Democratic Movement).
Jane
Ford > Ford-K (split engineered and by Moi, formalised by Matiba)
Ford-K leadership wrestled from RAO by Muite hence move to LDP
LDP in brief marriage to KANU for same reason as today ODM/PNU as well as NARC foster cordial working relationship, as soon as that harmony is broken these cease to exist.
ODM-K leadership wrestled from RAO by Kalonzo
In each move it was to either sacrifice through loss of life and limb or move to another party or work together to build a better kenya even if it means ridicule. The one thing constantly moving across those partys is the need for better governance and change. if you can prove/show that those ideals changed party to party then your argument would have some basis otherwise it only shows how frustrating it is to get anything to work as it should in kenya
that grand opposition saga is a little confusing, could someone shed a little more light? what exactly is to be achieved by the initiative and what precedent is it setting? if in the future, cabinet is restricted to 12 ministers and 12 assistant ministers, can those left out then join to form an opposition which is what is being witnessed here. this is hacking at a problem that we do not fully comprehend and has its origin elsewhere. THe peace accord was for a “grand” coalition between PNU and ODM. PNU and ODM chose to include affiliate parties (who should have rejected the arangement then). Once the party is included then that party is part of the coalition with some members directly appointed and others not, so how then can they be opposition, it is near illogical. like going to an event (e.g football team or sponsored to a international govt function but on arrival, even though you wear the team colors or are in the kenya delegation you claim to be playing for the opposite team i.e deny being kenyan) mind boggling, pedestrian analog but can someone more informed shed some light.
are there some perks, duties or responsibilities associated with oppostition that would not be fulfilled or carried out? if yes, why didn’t anyone lift a finger when Uhuru absconded duty as official oposition and make effort to replace and fill this void? Are there real opposition duties/responsibilities or is it just some MPs agitating for political mileage. Certainly any party that has not been formally included/represented in the “grand” coalition is automatically in opposition even if they claim to support any of the coalition partners, it would make more sense to under the circumstances allow during the transition phase (Peace Accord) to lower or revise the requirement of 30MPs to better fit the smaller parties left out of govt to coalesce and form the grand opposition. What would happen in a few years when a single party not only carries the overwhelming majority of MPs, i.e automatically gets Prime Minister, but also gets the presidency and the smaller parties do not get enough (30) MPs to parliament what then?
These people need to think beyond our short term needs/pleasures and help plan future governance that takes into account all possibilites. Just exactly how do we elect these 210 people into positions of leadership when clearly so many of them are so narrow minded.
I think besides setting a ceiling to the number of cabinet ministers, the legislators need to also conisder the following
a) nominated MPs must not be candidates in the immediate general election and certainly not be ministers (consider the case of Nyaga and others like him, whereas I really admire this guy and he deserves this cabinet post, but what message does it send to the constituents who elected Mutava Musyimi and rejected Nyaga but now its Nyaga that flys the flag home. Think of Tuju/Kombo etc and in Mois time it was Kamotho rejected by his people yet nominated and made minister) this is just wrong. Candidates must strive to popularise their party in the constituency or else when rejected take time off to work things out.
b) set a limit to the number of terms for MPs and cabinet appointments. Kibaki has been in parliament since 1963 (45 years) and in the cabinet 35 of those. there are others am sure with similar dinosaur history. thats why they keep coming back and not even attempting to nurture leadership to take over, surely they must be other leaders in all communities. i suggest maximum of 3 term limit for MPs and max of 8 years as cabinet and upto 10 yrs as assistant (i.e after 8 years can serve additional 2 as assistant). this is the only way to break the monopoly and entrenchment of some of these politicians and also stop fanning the monarchies.
Well put TNK……..
Before people start critisizing PM they should either learn what the issue is or understand that kenya was going down and extra ordinary measures are needed to put this country forward……..
It’s not that opposition is bad but at these times we need everybody to pull themselves and contribute in solving all the urgent issues we have…….constitution,disbanding of all militia, creating jobs for uneducated youths….
Kenyans have to forget about this issue of being in opposition all the time…how about helping people get loans start businesses as RAILA was encouraging people from nyanza…….other provinces should do the same and money does not have to come from equity bank other banks should come forward too……
By the way the above article about RAILA should be treated with the contempt it deserves……RAILA is a true democrat and has achieved what he has due to his openeness, great ideas and truthfulness and his support will come from everywhere.
AN “INTERESTING” PERSONALITY, MARTHA KARUA:
On paper, she is the minister for justice and national cohesion (reconciliation).
In reality, she is the epitome of injustice and national animosity.
She says that “those who participated in election violence (and by this she means ODM supporters) must face justice, her justice. And Ms. Karua is silent on the loud calls for Mungiki to be pardoned. Mungiki roasted people alive in Naivasha and hacked many to death in Nakuru and other parts of Kenya.
Natural justice demands that those who plan and precipitate a crime and those who participate in the crime as accomplices and after-the-fact must all face justice.
Martha Karua’s version of justice starts with and ends with ODM supporters who protested against election fraud and clears the mastermind of the election fraud and police executions from facing criminal prosecution.
Natural justice demands that the mastermind of the election fraud and police executions is the foremost criminal that must face justice. Ever Kenyan knows who he is and Ms. Karua knows him too and dines with him.
Natural justice also demands that the former PS who turned State House into a den of killers should be among the foremost criminals to face justice. Ms. Karua knows him and what he did. Kibaki, too, knows what he did and that is why Kibaki decreed that he should never step in State House again.
For Ms. Karua to live upto the minister she is on paper, she must carry out a full investigation to expose and indict all those who masterminded the election fraud and to hold them responsible for what happened after-the-fact. Let the little man go.
Anything less than this on Ms. Karua’s part is injustice – pure and simple.
Maru,
This is what justice means, all criminals including mungiki and the Saboti force and Kalenjin worriors face the wrath of the law. All criminals in jail should only be pardoned when their cases has been proved in a court of law. Right now the onus will be on the judges to handle justice fairly. Some of the said criminal may never face provable charges and will be released by the courts- including the Kalenjin and Mungiki killers.
By the way, members of all these groups are in jail including the leader of Mungiki!
Maru,
You have been writting of Kalonzo Musyoka and I have been telling you that he has enough surrogates to push him to the highest office in the land which is only a heartbeat away. He will build one of the greatest political machines and cohort ever seen in Kenyan political landscape and will enjoy every bit of the journey to the top. His journey is unstoppable even by the mightest machines.
Ladies and gentlemen, does this man called Maru Kapkatet work? Or if he operates from and office, does he honestly work for his boss? I doubt his seriousness with life. He writes so much on this blogg that you would wonder whether he has time for nation building. My guess is that this man is idle and probably does not have a family. If he has one, he has very little time for work and family. This forum has outlived its purpose and should be closed to allow RAO and MK to lead our nation to work and especially to reconcile the party’s manifestos. We look forward to a time when ministers will start acting (like Ruto, Michuki, Saitoti, etc). We will applaud when we hear that ministers stay in their offices late in the offices (like Kibaki) and reconstruct the lives of our people).
We shall always cherish Moi days of peace in Kenya and I salute him for his resolve to maintain one country even in retirement.
Whether Rift Valley will vote for Raila or not, he has proved to be a statesman and he together with Kibaki should be proposed for nobel peace prize.
I had a chance to see a show by the late NYENGESE (street Comedian) one story that comes to mind is a that of a KAMBA employee who stole 1M from his boss after working for him for a meagre salary of Kshs. 3,000p.m. Mbio Mbio the guy rushed to Machakos bus -stop and was half way thru his journey to Ukambani when he suddenly thot aloud, what WILL HAPPEN IF I LOSE MY JOB. He alighted his bus and returned the money.
Nyengese concludes that story by saying ‘nobody is loyal like the kamba’ and that KAMAU IS THE MAKAU who would not hyave returned the money and KAMUODHO is the KAMOTHO who will always depend on nomination to stay in power.
ikiwa MARU anaandika mail refu ambazo zaku kera wazisomea nini ? BLOG YAENDELEA
It was clear that in KALONZO’s homecoming ceremony yesterday, there more security guards and cars than crowd.
Watch out for NGILU’S homecoming next.
OUT OF CURIOSITY……….TURNCOAT..
Can you please explain further your blog above because i don’t know why you use the names of people who blog here……….
Be bold enough and state and explain yor thoughts………
Fumbo Fumbuwa.
PNU STRATEGY FOR 2012:
http://www.nationmedia.com/dailynation/nmgcontententry.asp?category_id=1&newsid=123478
PNU’S RECOMEENDATIONS SO FAR:
1. Recommendation: Hire John Njoroge Michuki as Chief Consultant, Status: Done
2. Recommendation: Appoint Justice Waki to replace Samwel Kivuithu, Status: In progress, Martha and Father actively pursuing this
3. Recommendation: Hire another dumb soldier to replace Maj. Gen. Ali as Police Commissoner, Status: In progress, Yusuf Haji actively pursuing this
4. Recommendation: Mesmerize and mislead Kalonzo Musyoka into thinking that he will be the PNU flag bearer the way the late VP and Musikari Kombo were misled into thinking that 2007 was theirs,
Status: In progress using the strategy of throwing in a suggestion and analyzing the response while at the same time undercutting Kalonzo using Kibwana
5. Recommendation: Prepare the Provincial Administration for 2012, Status: In progress, George Kinuthia actively drawing a list of all the DOs, DCs, PCs, PPOs, PCIOs, and OCPDs and in particular getting details of their marital status and who their spouses are
6. Recommendation: Weaken Raila and ODM by going for William Ruto to join PNU and using MPs in parliament to form an opposition, called the Grand Opposition, which will be transformed in good time into a political party to further fragment ODM,
Status: In progress, On Mr. Ruto, the media has already been contracted to flatter him and on the Grand Opposition, MP Abu is proving to be the right man just like the late minister from Bungoma was for Total Man and just as Kombo was for Kibaki and just as Wetangula is for Martha
7. Recommendation: Kibaki to use his unmatched gift of presenting facades of humility and friendship to Mzee Moi in order to fool Kalenjins to forget about mass removals from government jobs and the 2007-08 massacre of Kalenjins,
Status: In progress, Kibaki has the aging Mzee Moi firmly in his grasp and the Kibaki who was humiliating Moi in 2003 and making fun of everything Moi did for Kenya including ridiculing his harambee efforts is now publicly admitting that Moi is a genius to whom Kenya owes a ton and whom every Kenyan must learn from
8. Recommendation: Hire staff to man the PNU 2012 Secretariat, Status: Done, already Kivutha Kibwana and Raphael Tuju are in office and will present their war plan in the next few days
RAILA -Sell out
Kip and others,
I think we have reached a level where new strategies are needed for the survival of ODM, its supporters and future. Dismissing PM as a sell out is premature if not il timed.
I think RAO was the first to ask for the release of the innocent youth. What I beieve is that Kibaki should be given a deadline for this. These boys must come home.
Secondly we want the electoral laws changed. He has given the road map.
Kalonzo is campaigning but we need to look at the numbers rigged and unrigged. As for propaganda by PANUA dont worry, they cant match ODM.
Thirdly, the by elections. We need to srtategise.
Finally, ODM should have urgent PG meeting to iron out issues.
So RAO is not a sell out. Watch the space.
Joluo in Kisumu warn Raila over deal with Kibaki.. kalenjins saw this deal as bad … before the ink dried on it..Apparently they were not amused. This is not a good omen.
The Kisumu crowd is always right about an issue.
They know a bad deal when they see one.
the issue of thr opposition is RAILA’S weapon of death self inflicted death ..Railas True colors are comming out
ODM AND RAILA BEING UNDERMINED AND RAILA IS HELPING IT ALL BY NOT ASSUMING HIS DUTIES OF PM:
In parliament, they call it the Grand Opposition but reliable sources tell a different story. At the registry of political parties, they have registered or are in the process of registering a party called GOP, Grand Orange Party.
The brains behind the Grand Opposition in parliament wanted to call their new party, which is meant to fragment ODM, Grand Old Party (like in the USA) but others opposed it on the grounds that the name has been used to refer to Kanu in the past.
Others wanted to retain the name Grand Oppostion Party but those opposed to this name maintained that they will never form the government if they call themselves the Grand Opposition party. They finally settled on the name, Grand Orange Party.
The fall of ODM, a process that has already begun, is being helped by Raila, who is taking too long to start executing the duties of his PM office. What is Raila waiting for? Is Raila trying to do as little as possible hoping to please die-hard Gema supporters into voting for him in the next presidentail elections?
If he is, then he is chasing a pipe dream. Murungi, Kalonzo, and Uhuru are have already formed their own Grand Gema Party. According to Kalonzo, Murungi, and Uhuru, the acronym GEMA now stands for: G stands for two, the Gikuyu and the Gusii, E stands for Embu, M for Meru, and A for Akamba.
In fact, I learned from reliable sources that Kalonzo and Musyoka have already registered a new party called ODM KANU Alliance (OKA). Oka, I am told is a Kikuyu word for come so their sign of salutation is beckoning with the right hand.
PM Raila has to start working yesterday for all Kenyans while consolidating the support he already has amongst the Gusii people and other Kenyan tribes.
FIRST BUSINESS FOR PM RAILA ODINGA IS JUSTICE AND REFORMS:
There are only two ministers that he has to deal with 80% of the time and these are Amos Kimunya and Martha Karua. The PM asked publicly for a report from KACC on the Grand Regency hotel. The PM has a spokesperson. Why has this spokesperson not briefed Kenyans on the progress of the PM’s request?
The Grand Regency hotel changed hands through distortion. Kamlesh Pattni was thretened to cede ownership of the hotel to Kibaki’s associates, including Amos Kimunya or else he “will be handed over to mungiki”.
Why is the PM not keeping Kenyans informed on this saga? Kenyans will lose confidence in PM Raila Odinga unless he starts serving Kenyans soon.
Martha Karua was once quoted as saying that “heaven is here in Kenya” and this statement has been deciphered by experts who agree that while she was not referring to big “H” Heaven but small “h” heaven, she clearly meant that in Kenya she can do whatever she wants.
She can go for documents from Father 24/7. She can also bend “justice” in Kenya into whatever form, shape, size, or recipient of it without anyone questioning or challenging her.
Martha Karua has conveniently thrown a safety net around mungiki and her people. According to Martha Karua, the mastermind of the masss executions in Kenya and who also happens to have masterminded the election fraud is INNOCENTand was only doing his job.
According to Martha Karua, the minister and former PS who orgarnized and hosted mungiki in State House to plan and facilitate their killing trip to Naivasha and Nakuru are INNOCENT and were only doing their job of protecting their people.
In fact, according to Martha Karua, mungiki did not roast and hack people to death in Naivasha and Nakuru but that they only attacked Luos, Luyhas, Kalenjins, and Maasais.
When Martha Karua talks about election violence and perpetrators of it, she means that ONLY the supporters of ODM were the perpetrators and that mungiki and her people were the victims.
PM Raila Odinga will be seen as being a leader IFF (if and only if) he ensures that geuine justice and not Martha Karua’s evil brand of justice is adhered to. PM Raila Odinga has to deal with Martha Karua decisively.
THERE HAS TO BE TRUE JUSTICE FOR ALL KENYANS IRRESPECTIVE OF ETHNIC OR POLITICAL PARTY AFFLIATION.
PM Raila Odinga has to also ensure that every Kenyan is protected by law. Kamlesh Pattni may have been a key figure in the Goldenburg scam but so was George Saitoti. Mr. Kamlesh Pattni’s property has to be protected and if he as to lose any of his property it has to be through a fair due process of law.
SO FAR, PM RAILA ODINGA HAS NOT EXERCISED HIS CONSTITUTION-GRANTED POWERS TO SERVE AND PROTECT KENYANS. WHEN IS HE STARTING TO DO SO.
Martha Karua, even is she sees heaven in Kenya, should not be allowed to bend justice to target others while protecting her people and mungiki.
I agree with karanja and rafiq
we need an ODM roadmap highlighting the reforms timetable, that is the most important outcome expected out of this coalition, If that cannot be achieved then all those lives will have been lost in vain, and the acrimony will be elevated.
Lets have a roadmap not exceeding 18 months to complete overhaul and reforms in the main institutions (ECK, parliamentary calendar, judiciary, police force, armed forces and other key public sector) then work on minor or major constitutional reforms with specific time frames. THese are the important issues that affect governance and public service delivery. Issues such as grand opposition, “sell out” etc are perceptions that have no real meaning and should be ignored. Kalonzo was a sell out to the ODM movement, but he is the VP, Tuju and Kibwana were a sell out to their communities but they now have an office in Harambee house. We have to grow beyond narrow minded “eye candy” and work towards the much needed reforms without further delay
TNK,
We need reforms by all means. We must put a credible electral commission as soon as possible. We can be sure that nobody will vote twice and that the process is completely computerized where both ODM and PNU will not interfere with votes at whatever level and that the outcome will be published at the local polling booth. My guts tell me that both ODM and PNU cooked the results even though some tribes were more committed to their leaders of choice.
I wonder why Kalonzo is chicken out of being declared the ticket holder when Luos and Kalenjin continue to call for Raila to go for the top seat.
I agree with Chris Okemo that this animal called grand coalition is headed to the grave. Already the PM and other ministers have retreated back to their sponsoring partys. They are now doing the collective responsibility in the media. I do not hope to see alot of life improvement going on in Kenya in this environment. And it will not spare anyone.
I smell a rat in all these reforms issue especially constitutional reforms. Why is it that its is only the ODM wing of the grand coalition which is continiously singing about constitutional reforms? ODM is even giving timetable e.g. a new constitution by April 2009. While this is happening, the PNU side which also has the ministry of Constitutional affairs is damn silent about the issue and in fact they are busy ralying troops for 2012 forgetting that Kenyans have hardly healed from 2007. it is even ironic that the same PNU also holds the ministry of national cohesion and they are doing zero to bring about cohesion. Is there something ODM knows nothing about that PNU is cooking up.
Rafiq and my fellow brethens
Long time…..my friends
As I said before; we are in for very interesting times.
The Dragon is sitting at the top and his many children are busy at work. There will be no cover to shield the fire that will come from his belly and gutts come 2012.
NOT the grand coalition, but the Grand-Mother for she woke-up and called out for her Grandchildren to go and start the work for the rains are coming soon and always be ready. It’s said that she is very mad at her children for not being ready the last time the Rains came; for they had not prepaired the fields (Kenya)
The next five years, will be unlike before. We either join hands behind our Shield (Coat of arms) or some will perish.
This is just a message to you. later
Jogoo
Good to hear from you.
I’ve not quite grasped some of the parable(s) you’ve used, but you are right its time to move on to greater things
On another note: Agent4Change, new thread please
http://kenyatimesonline.com/content.asp?catid=2&articleId=531
This is long overdue and is a good and probably gigantic step in the right direction. My reservation or concern as always is that the problem is not in identifying laggards or the performance evaluation (i.e what’s been done well, and what need to be improved or what was totally off the mark). Everyone even primary kids know all this. The problem is nothing gets done about the wrongs and failings. Noone resigns, no one gets fired, and therefore nothing gets fixed.
ADMIn
i would like to buy raila autobiography but it is out of stock at amazon ,is there any other outlet that i can get my hands on this great book , any one else can advice.
While you are at it you can buy OBAMA’S as well. It makes interesting reading.
This is how things stand in Kenya (ofcourse My view)
Inflation has risen to a record 24 percent – Higher than what we had during the August 1st 1982 Coup attempt.
With the minimum wage remaining where it is there is bound to be an upsurge in crime.
Most of the businessmen i speak to in the manufacturing and transport sector are at 70 percent levels and the tourism sector at overall of 50 percent. Witha demultiplier effect setting in, and continued rise of the fuel prices, this coalition should brace for tough times. The citizen should tighten his belt for tougher times. Afunge Mshipi kama WASP.
At off all this the loser is the tax payer (those ones sitting infront of the computer – me and u included). Note that the govt will have to collect more tax to support the bloated cabinet. Administration costs far outweigh the costs put into production. Do you see a relief in sight. And the cost of settling IDP’s am afraid you will have to settle that too. It is said Muthaura has sent a circular asking for deductions of certain amounts from the salary of civil servants. (Did you know there are I.D.Ps in Naivasha ??????????????)
It beats me to date why fuel prices should increase drastically when we have fixed rates of VAT and Fuel Levy. This year’s Budget will vindicate me on this. The effect is that investors are looking elsewhere- T.Z, Ethiopia, e.t.c
Enuff said………..back to the pecking oda
A grand oppossition is building up even in this blog. Better reign it in then tame it and ask it to bite the animal called PNU.
ONE COUNTRY, ONE ORDINARY/WANANCHI PEOPLE, TWO GOVERNMENTS, TWO POLITICAL PARTIES
And that country is Kenya.
In Kenya, we have two governments – one government under PM Hon. Raila Odinga and the other government under Mwai Kibaki. Whenever the ministers of these two leaders hold celebrations and parties, they ensure that their rivals from the other government are excluded.
And in Kenya, we have two political parties – ODM and Gema. ODM is a party for all Kenyan people and anyone in ODM can be the leader of the party. The real name of the other party is Gema but to camouflage its real identity and intentions, it is called by other names, including PNU, Kanu, ODM-K, and PNU-Kanu-ODMK.
In this other party whose real name is Gema, the preference for president is Gikuyu. If for some reason, it is not possible to have a Gikuyu as president, the next preference has to be the immediate cousin of the Gikuyu – the Embu, and if not, they try the Meru.
If it is not possible to have the president to come from the Gikuyu or the Embu or the Meru, then the distant cousin, the Akamba has to be considered. The order of preference for the presidential candidates is clearly spelt out in the name Gema, G first then E next, then M, and lastly A.
Mr. Kiraitu Murungi went to great lengths at a celebration party held recently in Machakos for VP Musyoka Kalonzo to explain to Kenyans what their political party is all about and what their order of things is.
And in Mwai Kibaki’s government, no minister from Gema will ever be deemed as a poor performer. Even the ministries of environment and natural resources, then under Mwiraria (from Meru), and that of co-operative development which was under Ndwiga (from Embu)and both of which were as good as dead ministries were charged among the best ministries.
And the ministry of local government under the visible and vibrant Musikari Kombo was charged one of the worst performers. Ironically, a good number of city and county councils that were under Kombo were deemed as among the best performers.
In other words, in the minds of the performance evaluators and judges, the city council and county councils staged a coup and ousted their minister in order to achieve.
The ministry of Trade whose minister, Mr. Kituyi, was at one time favoured to head the World Trading Organization (WTO) and whose performance at the WTO conference in Mexico City was praised by all attendees is also among the worst performing ministries.
And the ministry of Transport under Ali Makwere and whom the international shipping community and the Kenyan commuters and the Kenyan civil aviation community know to be below any pass mark, however low it is set, is deemed as a good performer.
My question is this : how can a clogging port, a corrupt port, and a chaotic transport industry, and a dangerous international airport where mercenaries slap hard-working Kenyans at their workplace and threaten them with guns be judged a good performer? Have Kenyans forgotten the Artur brothers?
Mwai Kibaki and his homeboy, Muthaura are fooling Kenyans. Their performance evaluation is a farce. Mwai Kibaki directing Amos Kimunya to pay a reward to “good performers” is a new tool for corruption – for Kimunya to replace civil servants with his tribesmen and for him to pay large sums of money to his people.
In Kibaki’s world of tribalism and ethnocentrism, Muthaura and his boys sit in the office, get the performance chart and start filling it out. They first complete the bottom part with ministers from Western Kenyan and Nyanza and when all is done, they now start debating who amongst the Gema ministers should be given first place.
POOR MUSIKARI KOMBO, THEY KILLED HIS POLITICAL CAREER, THEY NEVER APPRECATED HIS CONTRIBUTION, AND FINALLY THEY THREW HIM IN THE DUST BIN OF KENYAN POLITICS WITH THE PERFORMANCE THING BEING THE FINAL NAIL IN HIS LEADERSHIP COFFIN.
THEIR ARGUMENT IS THAT IF ONE CANNOT PERFORM AS A MINISTER, HOW CAN HE PERFORM AS LEADER OF A PARTY, LEAVE ALONE PRESIDENT OF KENYA
Tnk, Rafiq and fellow brethens
You remember the last time I posted and my note was deleted regarding leadership vacuum? I describered to all and sundry the sequence of events. And it has come to pass with the homecoming of Waziri mkuu.
I explained the challenges ahead, but Mr.Agent4change decided to delete the entry. Now today, I will drop another obvious hint, there is a marriage union about to come to an end together with an illustrious career. This goes back to the legend folklore of Lunda Magere and his eventual demise.
The same is about to happen in this present day centuary and right in front of our eyes.
Its said that the Luo legend was destroyed by his own woman who he had married from another tribe(Kalenjin-Kipsigis). Waziri Mkuu has always fashioned himself as a descendant of Lunda Magere’s lineage….But that is all about to be demystified. His own people as I said before will start looking else where for Leadership; the young, youthfull and educated will challenge him together with his clan. He will be stoned and lose face and the people of the Milk will turn away Spearing him.
Today, When he goes to his home they shout him down, when he enters the Valley they call him our president, but behind doors they secretly call him the Orphan. Who will need an orphan come 2012 or in the next three years.
This is all in the wax, they call it the deconstruction of the “Enigma” just like Lunda Magere. This is a pre-occupation down the valley and secret meetings in hotels all over Nairobi.
Don’t worry about the people from the Mountain, worry about the fire from the Valley
A CONTRAST BETWEEN SOUTH AFRICAN POLICE SERVICE AND KENYA POLICE:
The happenings in South Africa are very sad. For many years, many independent African countries helped the people of South Africa, providing them with shelter, education, and jobs as they fought apartheid.
South African gangster mobs are now hunting down and killing their brothers and sisters from other African countries and who helped them at their time of need. It is very sad indeed.
As one watches the sad events unfolding in South Africa, one will not fail to notice the professionalism with which the South African Police Service is handling the situation. If it was Kenya facing this disturbance and killings, the mortuaries would now be teeming wth bodies riddled with police bullets.
The South African Police Service is a professional force whose motto is : WE PROTECT AND SERVE. First and foremost, the South African police protect lives.
The Kenya Police force is a lazy bunch of killers who will always justify their uncalled-for executions by saying that “We are following orders from the big man”. The motto of the Kenya Police force is “SERVICE TO ALL” (Utumishi Kwa Wote).
This is a very unfortunate choice of motto and it is one that the Kenya Police personnel have lived up to daily. By their SERVICE TO ALL motto, they mean that if mungiki need a free and speedy passage to go and kill, the Kenya Police will serve them and facilitate.
If a rogue minister or police commissioner tell them to shoot first and ask questions later, the Kenya Police officers will serve their bosses and do as they ask them to do.
The Kenya Police force motto of “SREVICE TO ALL” should be abandoned. The police officers in Kenya behave like a bunch of dummies who serve the current regime blindly. The Kenya Police force protect those they are ordered to protect and execute those they are asked to execute.
It is my hope and prayer that somehow and in some way, PM Raila will find a way to put his connections with South African leaders to use to help transform the Kenya police into a modern and professional force like the South African one.
South Africa has been independent for less than 15 years while Kenya has been independent for over 40 years and yet Kenya is miles away from becoming a modern country.
Kenya prides herself as the economic powerhouse in East Africa and yet Tanzania, which is the most stable and peaceful country in East Africa, is now right on the heels of Kenya and will be the true and real economic, political, military, and social leader in East and Central Africa.
PRIDE GOES BEFORE A FALL.
I love this party called ODM
Our ministers are showing the balls to realise the change they fondly talked about.
Orengo and Ruto are so far ahead in terms of making real changes.
Oparanya is going steady, I believe he is soon to table a bill to increase CDF to 7.5% this year and then to 10% next year as per ODM manifesto.
Further more expect many significant projects to come. Im excited about the future but we need to win at least 4/5 seats up for by elections to be able to push through our agenda in parliament.
Those who said we were given a raw deal in cabinet failed to realise that we actually got portfolios which have a direct impact of the lives of Kenyans.
Agent 4 change, can we have a tread where we can commend all gd work undertaken by our ministers and also criticise those who are not pulling their weight.
Maru,
Double speak. When the kalenjin were killing other “settlers” in Rift Valley from other “Kenya African” country, you were saying that they were fighting for democracy. The south African gangs borrowed from what happened in Kenya and maybe some of the ODM financiers from South Africa are financing the gangs against “historical injustices” by the foreigners. The unemployment rate in South Africa is 30 % slightly below the Kenya 50%. The lazy Zulus are jelous of the foreigners as they take their “land” and property from them. The only thing they can do now is to touch houses and destroy railway lines in the name of fighting for democracy and “injustices”.
So who will protect the 5 million foreigner who now have become IDPs in the churches in SA? The Kenyans in South Africa live in the affluent areas and have not been affected by the crimes in the “Kibera slums” of south Africa. Maybe Kenya violence will spread to other African countries like wildfire. But can you imagine the millions of Zimbabwens and Mozambique people in South Africa. A sad affair in Kenya where Kalenjin continue to resist resettling of IDPs and in South Africa where “Kalenjin-Zulu” gangs harass hardworking foreigners.
Mumias,
It is too early to start celebrating. Let us wait and see who the two ministers will reward and how the benefits will reach the common man.
I am amazed by the James Orengo decree about land in Kenya. Orengo as a lawyer should understand that even courts give people time to respond to accusations. A jugde does not make unilateral judgement without assessing its impact on the concerned. For example, when Orengo says that all allotment letters have lapsed doesn’t he know that many millions of Kenyans hold that document because they could not afford to process the titld deeds. A more humane way would be to issue a notice to all allotment letter holders to process they payments within a given period and them revoke the letters after that order. But as a elitist lawyer, he does not seem to understand the depth of that order. He is out of touch with the common man’s reality. He is becoming another roadside broadband minister.
MOSES WETANGULA: This man is anything but a diplomat. He is brutal and crude in what he says and does.
THANK YOU is not an expression in Moses Wetangula’s vocabulary.
He and Martha are a perfect match.
http://www.eastandard.net/news/?id=1143987053&cid=4
The long arm of the law- The govt has a longer arm otherwise how would it manage to pat it self in the back as recently occasioned in the media. The recent Grammy awards given to Govt institutions for their excellence in service was in itself a disservice to kenyans. As someone correctly remarked top of the the list was the ministry of Gender and sports, even when our KFF dawdles in a cesspool.
The president directed the finance minister to reward HANDSOMELY the performers. These incentives will be paid directly from the Finance Ministry (Another was to have genuine payments that could fall below the parliamentary accounts Commitee radar. After all these payments will be rewarding their kith and kin.
What caught my attention is the commitee members which was charged with the task of assesing these institutions – Mging Dire of Kenya Breweries, and Vice chancellors of Public Universities – I know their names – You can look them up.
The gravy train is surely out of the station and the stations it is going to stop at are marked. Many people will stand on the platform to wish BONvoyage to the ones on the train. Alot more (Kiberaets ) will be looking for an occasion to uproot the railway tracks.
Many of the post election violence did not make it to the papers. One such story of a rich woman whose house was broken into by members of a nearby slum and for the whole night she pleaded with the rapists to at least use a condom. Reports of Killings, theft, maiming …………. birth waters of Xenophobia.
I again plead with all sensible kenyans that post election violnce that what happened in Kenya should not re-occur. That is why I will never SUPPORT an blanket amnesty against those whose commited crimes of passion. They must be distinguished from those who defended their homes and propertyand if they used reasonable force in doing so. I leave the law to deciede that.Many a politician who are calling for an amnesty could be looking for a leeway of absolving themselves from blame and prosecution.
What is happening in south Africa could happene in our beloved country. If you have a chance to live abroad you will MUST at one point of you life suffered from X-Phobia. I remember in an former communist contry where the rednecks were convinced that the their govt was funding our stay there. The local politicians spread these falsehoods.
There are politicians in Kenya who say that they did not participate in the post election violence but we ask the question, – Being men and women of “good repute, standing with formidable backing and influence” -WHAT DID THEY DO TO PREVENT IT ?
Correction …………Many of the post violence violence stories ……………….
Those who agreed to be used by selfish and silly politicians to destroy property and lives will face the full force of the law. Crazy that those “used” have now been dumped in remand cells as the crazy politicians (users) enjoy in comfortable and palatial homes.
If any politician is bothered about those fellows they incited to “come out in millions”, now in remand cells, why not pay for them the required bond amount. They needed the millions then, why abandon them now?.
The politicians calling for amnesty for the law breakers are not talking about the people whose properties and lives were destroyed?. Why? Such politicians are hypocrites. Hypocrites!. Only best at spreading falsehoods. Are these calls by some politicians linked to ODM a reflection of how an odm government would have been? .violence! violence!attachs and counter-attachs, revenge! hell!. everything through violence! rule of the jungle at work! How do you explain displacement of Kuresoi residents way before the elections?.
The way ODM is linked to violence, maybe its high time RAO thought about re-branding the movement, give it another name, and transform it into a party. Movements have been known to use force and violence. The Orange movement in Kenya has not been spared in use of violence.
Who said democracy is about use of violence and destroying other people properties and lives except maybe William Ruto and Henry Kosgey of ODM.
WHY I SUPPORT RAILA FOR PRESIDENCY:
I am told that Mwai Kibaki likes driving around the upscale neighbourhoods of the city of Nairobi on saturday and sunday afternoons. I am told that he always feel great to see the many beautiful office and apartment buildings that keep cropping up everywhere in the city.
I am told that Kibaki’s favourite remark when he sees the developments in the city is: “The economic outlook is great”.
What Mwai Kibaki does not see is the real Kenya of tomorrow – a burning Kenya, a broken Kenya, a poor Kenya. It is Kibaki’s leadership and those of his predecessors that is building Kenya as a time bomb that will explode in the not too-distant future.
I have heard remarks, for example, in Kericho, where population is rising and land is getting smaller and smaller that they will deal with the Kericho Tea plantations with severity if they are provoked.
When Mwai Kibaki took over the leadership of Kenya in 2003, thousands of Kalenjins were removed from their jobs. Among the senior Kalenjin employees that were removed from their jobs were managers and assistant managers in the Kericho Tea plantations.
They were replaced by Kibaki’s ethnic people and the assumption in Kericho is that this was done as a preparation for Gema to complete the transcation that was aborted (although it was near completion) in 1978 following the death of Mzee Kenyatta.
The people of Kericho have been whispering to each other that when Gema takes over ownership of any/some/all the Kericho Tea plantations, then they will set the plantations on fire.
The government of Kenya must adress this issue and come up with solutions that will benefit the local people of Kericho as well as the entire nation of Kenya. GREED and RELIANCE ON CHINESE BULLETS will not help Kenya at all.
I SUPPORT HON. ODINGA FOR PRESIDENT NOT BECAUSE I THINK HE IS A GREAT LEADER BUT BRCAUSE I KNOW THAT HE WILL KILL GEMAISM ONCE AND FOR ALL.
We see the evil side of Gemaism everyday in Kenya. Take for example, Mwai Kibaki’s BOGUS perfomance evaluation report which he released last Tuesday, May 20, 2008.
IT IS ONLY A FOOL WHO WILL BELIEVE THAT MWAI KIBAKI’S PERFORMANCE EVALUATION REPORT IS FACTUAL AND OBJECTIVE.
IT IS ONLY A FOOL WHO WILL BELIEVE THAT MWAI KIBAKI’S PERFORMANCE EVALUATION REPORT IS FACTUAL AND OBJECTIVE.
There are two issues which show how bogus Mwai Kibaki’s report is:
First and foremost, the ten minsiters in the list of shame, that is the ten worst-performing ministers all lost their seats in the general elections. They are Tuju, Nyachae, Kombo, Kituyi,
There are two issues which show how bogus Mwai Kibaki’s report is:
First and foremost, the ten minsiters in the list of shame, that is the ten worst-performing ministers all lost their seats in the general elections. They are Tuju, Nyachae, Kombo, Kituyi, Kibwana, Munyao, Kirwa, Obwocha, and Mutuku. Is it a coincidence or is it by design that the election losers are named as the worst-performing ministers?
It is by design to try and hoodwink the donors that the Kenyan leadership takes performance of ministers seriously and evaluate them rigorously while at the same time sacrificing the election losers who are so severely-wounded that they will not be able to defend themselves.
Secondly, none of the Gema (Gikuyu, Embu, or Meru) ministers are not in the list of shame – the ten worst-performing ministers. Why is this? Is it true then that all Gikuyu, Embu, and Meru ministers did their work satisfactorily? The answer to this questionn is a resounding NO. Njenga Karume, David Mwiraria,a dn Njeru Ndwiga were among the worst five ministers in the last Cabinet.
The reason why they these three men are not in Kibaki’s list of shame is because they happen to me members of Kibaki’s ethnic group and in Kenya it is anathema to slight a member of Gema.
WHO IS MWAI KIBAKI FOOLING? WHY DOES MWAI KIBAKI WANT TO MOULD KENYA INTO A TIME BOMB? WHY DOES MWAI KIBAKI KEEP THE ENTIRE MINISTRY OF FINANCE IN THE HANDS OF HIS PEOPLE?
The answer to the last question is becoming clearer as days pass by. The answer is this: THE GRAND REGENCY HOTEL.
During the goldenburg commission of inquiry, Dr. Gibson Kamau Kuria, who was introduced in Washington DC, during Mwai Kibaki’s state visit to the USA, as Kibaki’s attorney cried like a baby when it became apparent that Justice Bosire would not allow him (Kuria) to take ownership of the Grand Regency Hotel.
Earlier, Dr. Gibson Kamau Kuria had succeeded in getting his brother appointed as the receiver/manager of the hotel. It is becoming more apparent now than ever before that Kibaki’s associates never gave up their greedy desire to extort the Grand Regency hotel.
During his appearance before the Kenya parliamentary finanace commitee this week, Amos Kimunya gave weird answers and recommendations. My take and that of many Kenyans who watched this story unfold concluded that:
THE GRAND REGENCY HOTEL ALREADY HAS ITS OWNERS – MWAI KIBAKI AND FRIENDS. They are misleading Kenyans that the hotel has not been sold as they wait for the story to run its course and evaporate.
THE REASON WHY MWAI KIBAKI INSISTED ON AMOS KIMUNYA BEING THE MINISTER OF FINANCE AND ALL TOP POSITIONS IN THE TREASURY BEING TAKEN BY HIS PEOPLE IS BECAUSE HE KNEW THAT THERE WAS A BIG ONE WHICH THEY WERE ABOUT TO KILL – THE GRAND REGENCY HOTEL.
Mwai Kibaki and his associates are blinded by greed and are driving and moulding Kenya for self-destruction.
Kenya used to make fun of Mwalimum Julius Nyerere of Tanzania and Dr. Hastings Kamuzu Banda of Malawi. If you look at Tanzania and Malawi right now, you can see the long-range wisdom of Nyerere and Banda.
Theirt countries are so united and stable that they will develop rapidly.
If Kenyan leaders can distance themselves from greed and tribalism and unite their people into one people of one country, they will have made tremendous steps in developing the country which the younger generation can build on.
I AM DISAPPOINTED WITH HON. RAILA ODINGA FOR ENDORSING (BY HIS ATTENDANCE) A BOGUS PERFORMANCE EVALUATION REPORT.
I often wonder whether or not Hon. Raila Odinga remarked to Mwai Kibaki or Francis Muthaura that the list of poorly-performing ministers is in fact a list of the ministers who lost their seats and could this mean then that the Kenyan voters can see by telescopic ability government reports even before they are released.
HOWEVER MUCH HON. RAILA ODINGA DISAPPOINT ME, I WILL ALWAYS SUPPORT HIM BECAUSE I KNOW THAT GEMAISM POSES THE GREATEST DANGER FOR KENYA.
Maru,
It does not matter whether you support Raila or not. At least he is clever enough to know that his people were affected as much as were the Kikuyus and Kisiis in RV. Ands at least he stands for the unity of Keny – A united country. He knows that the Kalenjin barrel is now pointed towards the Kikuyu and the Kalenjin but will eventually turn to the Luos once he is out of favor with them. The Kalenjin agenda is to completely wipe out all tribes from the great RV and start expansion as they perfect their art and science of cattle rustling and lies.
I understand that Kalenjin too had their share of the shame and will not be spared the hunger (the Baringo and Marakwet). Only the Kipsigis and Nandi seem to be the beneficiary of the chaos. I see the downfall of the Kalenjin and Maasai union. Did you see that they want to take over Kilgoris from the Maasai? I can assure you that Maasai will be better of in Kanu than in ODM. ODM is dominated by Kalenjin, Luo and Luhya. The cost province recieved a row deal and must seriously think about creating their own “SAFINA”.
On the issue of violence especially in Kericho, Kalenjin should know that they have their match in Mungiki (I deplore these gangs). You must understand that violence breeds violence and that the assumption that you can annihilate one group from the face of the earth is a fallacy of the highest order. You may be suprised if Kenya becomes another middle east with violence and counter violence. The best way to deal with chaos is through diologue and accomodation. When I saw Rutoh speak in a public mieeting with the ODM cap, I saw the recurrence of the pre-election violence devil.
On the issue of SA, the Zulus are criminals and lazy. They complain like they do in US about foreigners and as the Kalenjin complain about people from other provinces in RV.
About the performance evaluation, I do not know what system they use but at least I know that it is not based on the post-election government. So I leave that to the pundits to evaluate. I am not Mr. know everything in the world like Maru Kapkatet. He believes that he can advice everybody about everything including but not limited to tribal politics, international law and marine, food crisis, south african crisis, tribal agenda, kalenjin subtribes and their war mongering genetics and who should be appointed in the government. I watch and shake my head each time this guy writes or open his mouth to speak.
Hasting Kamuzu Banda is a heroe in Malawi???? That Malawi and Tanzania are the role model countries for us? I wonder and more so. I want you to see among the three countries which has the highest literacy level and which has higher GDP. Maybe you can help in the school of common sense Maru.
fellow bloggers
the coalition government is in place. this is a compromise and hopefully transitional govt. as we all predicted earlier, we do not expect smooth sailing, and plenty of underhand dealings as some of the less progressive minded MPs and ministers try to undercut or outdo each other.
we in this blog have to move to the next level which is monitor the progress made on issues that we know are the reason that institutions are not functioning as they should and these include but not limited to constitutional and institutional reforms while also keeping a lookout for fishy deals.
I dont see how formation of grand opposition is more important than investigating the circumstance that allow someone like Ephraim Maina and Cyrus Jirongo to head parliamentary bodies that technically have been investigating scams that they are perpetrators or implicated in.
At the same time we have rise above “micro-managing” the affairs of MPs to such an extent that we are critical of each step/speech made. Lets work towards ensuring that first and foremost our vote in any election is a respected event and not subject to the whims of the ruling elite. then lets work towards ensuring that public servants are directly accountable for their actions or inactions and made to pay for gross error or misconduct. IMO that is more important than rewarding any real or purported good work in ensuring quality public service delivery and fostering working and efficient institutions.
It would be wrong for this government to operate till 2012 and this is not the spirit of the Peace accord which specifically states a 2 year term under which, peace would be restored, displaced persons resettled and reforms undertaken and the coalition would cease to exist. Pity its all stopped with appointment/inclusion of ODM cabinet and neither the resettlement exercise has taken place satisfactorily but worse still, the mediators have neglected their duties to complete the Annan led talks, with Wetangula’s goof not making things any better.
The cabinet pushing for a full 5 year term with no room for opposition is insincere and indicative of greed (wanting to keep flags on their limos for the 5 years). Its either a transitional govt all inclusive for 2 years or if they want a 5 year term then it should have a working opposition or structure that allows for a ruling party or coalition govt and an operating opposition of non govt parties. Someone needs to remind the mediators/negotiators to go back and complete their tasks and then implement the peace accord in full.
TNK,
Thanks for this good analysis. I agree with each and every point you have stated above. Yes we need to move to the next level and also allow a vibrant opposition. We should in fact hold elections in 3 years (though Raila is willing to give Kibaki his 5 years). My only worry is that since non of the coalition leaders is in control of their parties (ODM, ODM-K and PNU), I do not see a comprehensive constitutional review happen unless all MPs are persuaded into that arrangement. So any plan to push Kibaki out of office before will fail.
By the way as we move on, Kibaki will be reduced into a ceremonial president as we all know he is on his way out. The real players in the government will be Raila, Kalonzo, Uhuru, Saitoti, Rutoh and Mudavadi. The greatest beneficiary will be the one who puts a great coalition than the last one. And that is why Raila is playing the right tune by campaigning on the unity platform. Central province will support him as long as he assures them of their safety.
Have you seen Balala and Ntimama are working rather than talking. A complete suprise in the political sense. I wish them well and other ministers who have recognized that the country needs to move on.
IF THERE IS ONE THING, HON. RAILA ODINGA REGRETS, IT IS HIS DISREGARDING OF MZEE NYACHAE’S ADVICE NOT TO ENDORSE MWAI KIBAKI FOR PRESIDENT BY DECLARING “KIBAKI TOSHA” IN 2002.
If Hon. Raila Odinga had not supported Kibaki in 2002, Kibaki would not have won and the worst-of-the-worst of the greed-driven world of gemaism would not be at the centre of Kenya leadership now.
Right now, both Hon. Raila Odinga and Mzee Simeon Nyachae are hostage and victim respectively of gemaism, with PM Raila Odinga being cleverly steered away and blocked from assuming his duties of PM.
Mzee Nyachae, on the other despite serving Kenya with distinction for over half a century, is now having his illustrous career stained with the remarks of “VERY POOR IN PERFORMANCE” and “MEMBER OF THE LIST OF SHAME, THE LIST OF KENYA’S WORST MINISTERS SINCE INDEPENDENCE”.
Mzee Nyachae is now being judged as below Njenga Karume, Njeru Ndwiga, and David Mwiraria in ministerial performance. Unthinkable. Unbelievable. But In Mwai Kibaki’s world, where “anything Gema is best”, Mzee Nychae’s relegation to the bottom of the pit does not come as a surprise.
IF THERE IS ONE THING MZEE MOI REGRETS IN HIS LIFE, IT IS FAILING TO HEED INTELLIGENCE REPORTS THAT UHURU KENYATTA WOULD NOT BE ELECTED AS MP IN GATUNDU IN 1997.
MZEE MOI REGRETS THAT HE DID NOT THINK OF HAVING UHURU KENYATTA STAND INSTEAD IN RONGAI WHERE UHURU’S FAMILY HAS PROPERTY. IF UHURU KENYATTA HAD STOOD IN RONGAI IN 1997, HE WOULD HAVE BEEN ELECTED MP AND MZEE MOI WOULD HAVE APPOINTED HIM THE VICE PRESIDENT.
In 2002, Vice President Uhuru Kenyatta would have won the presidency by a huge margin. The failure of Uhuru Kenyatta to get elected in Gatundu in 1997 shocked Mzee Moi to numbness that for several months he could not even find a suitable candidate to appoint as VP.
If Mzee Moi had acted differently and gotten Uhuru to be elected in Rongai, then Hon. Raila Odinga would not have had to inven t the phrase “Kibaki Tosha” and Kenya would be a different country right now – a united and prosperous country matching forward with confidence as one country, one people under the dynamic leadership of Mzee Kenyatta’s son.
Instead, Kenyans are now being treated as fools by Mwai Kibaki and his men. They give Kenyans a list of former ministers who lost in the general elections (and whom they are mad at for not winning for PNU) and Kenyans are being told that this is the list of shame of ministers who performed very poorly in the June 2006 to June 2007 period under review.
Are Kenyans such fools as not to distinguish a performance evaluation report from a post-elections postmortem report?
If both Mzee Moi and Raila Odinga had acted differently, Uhuru Kenyatta would have been the president of Kenya from December 2002. And what a great president Uhuru Kenyatta would have been. The over 1,500 Kenyans who left us this year would be going to school or just laughing and having a good time with their families or working their farms or businesses or walking the streets in Kenyan towns and cities.
IT IS SAD THAT DUE TO LACK OF FORESIGHT ON THE PART OF BOTH MZEE MOI AND HON. RAILA ODINGA, KENYANS RIGHT NOW HAVE TO BEAR WITH A PRETENCE OF A LEADER IN MWAI KIBAKI. ACCORDING TO KIBAKI HIS TRIBESMEN ARE SUPREME AND THEIR PERFORMANCE AS MINISTERS RANGE FROM GOOD TO EXCELLENT.
RELEASING BOGUS REPORTS IN WHICH GEMA MINISTERS ARE SET APART, AT THE TOP OF PERFORMANCE CHARTS, SIMPLY FOR BEING MEMBERS OF A CERTAIN ETHNIC GROUP ONLY HELPS TO FUEL THE FLAMES OF RESENTMENT AGAINST GEMAISM AND THIS IN TURN WILL FUEL THE FLAMES BURNING KENYA DOWN IN THE NOT-TOO-DISTANT FUTURE.
Mwai Kibaki had better know that Kenyans are not silent and undiscerning. Kenyans see and analyze and decide.
FOR MWAI KIBAKI, IT IS FAIR PLAY FOR HIS ASSOCIATES (WHO ARE EXCLUSIVELY HIS TRIBESMEN) TO EXTORT AND ASSUME OWNERSHIP OF THE GRAND REGENCY HOTEL, WHICH IN A CIVILIZED WORLD SHOULD HAVE BEEN DISPOSED OF LEGALLY AND OPENLY.
Nobody in Kenya cares who buys what as long as it is done openly, fairly, and according to the law. I will not be surprised when the results of the Safaricom IPO are released that the Gema prime movers through their holding companies or through Equity Bank gobbled up 90% of the shares on sale.
GREED THINKS, PLANS, DECIDES, AND DRIVES EVERTHING IN KENYA UNDER MWAI KIBAKI.
As for Uhuru Kenyatta, I read an interesting article in the media and many Kenyans can only say “IF ONLY …”
http://www.nationmedia.com/dailynation/nmgcontententry.asp?category_id=1&newsid=124024
The Uhuru Kenyatta of 1960 to about June 2007 was a great son of Kenya and a great president for all Kenyans. He was free of the evils of gemaism and tribalism. He cared for all Kenyans. If the Uhuru Kenyatta we saw in 2002 and indeed subsequently after until early 2007 had been given a chance to lead Kenya, Kenya would have been a great country by now.
UNFORTUNATELY, THE UHURU KENYATTA THAT WE USED TO KNOW IS NO MORE. In a record-breaking time, Gema prime movers have moulded and turned Uhuru Kenyatta into a Gema insider.
Uhuru Kenyatta who was a leader for all Kenyans is now narrow in his vision of Kenya and in Machakos recently he teamed up with Kalonzo Musyoka and Kiraitu Murungi to preach the politics of gemaism.
The Uhuru Kenyatta we know today has been linked to the deadly mungiki. Uhuru Kenyatta has been mentioned as one of the people funding mungiki. Indeed at one time, Uhuru Kenyatta publicly denied while announcing a timetable for the election of mayors that the American embassy in Nairobi had not contacted him to tell him that he was among those Kenyan leaders to be banned from entering the USA.
Why did Uhuru Kenyatta have to deny this if there was no truth in it?
IT WILL TAKE A REAL MIRACLE AND NOT KALONZO MUSYOKA’S VERSION OF MIRACLES FOR UHURU KENYATTA TO BE ELECTED THE PRESIDENT OF KENYA. FOR YOUNG LEADERS LIKE GIDEON MOI, THE ONLY PATH FOR THEM TO A CAREER IN POLITICS IS ODM.
casting an eye out to the horizon or future
we see basic problems and proposed solutions such as traffic jams
http://www.eastandard.net/mag/index.php?id=1143987194&catid=331
even as we explore the possible solutions and embrace technology, we must first face and stand up to the reality that some of our basic problems such as the traffic / transport woes and housing congestion (informal and formal slums) are more due to a culture based on impunity, lack of integrity, gross indiscipline and disrespect for each other as well as the institutions designed to regulate public operations, and finally totally broken by the inability of law officers enforcement to impartially “police” or enforce laws in a sober mindset.
With that in mind, not even the latest and greatest bleeding edge technology can lift us out of our misery.
this applies equally to the full spectrum of issues we deal with from the simple to most complex. I am however convinced that no matter how monumental the challenges, no matter our different political views or divergent cultures if we remain level headed, we can hack at and get real solutions, evidenced by the many different proposals by contributors here. the biggest hurdle is how can we the ordinary mwanachi, implement a good idea from say railka, maru, Jogoo, kk, rafiq, and many other bloggers who genuinely try to seek solutions to the myriad of problems we face? that should be the challenge for bloggers here. lets find some mechanism to start implementing some of the viable and acceptable ideas emanating from this blog.
leading from the front
this is a first
http://www.nationmedia.com/dailynation/nmgcontententry.asp?category_id=1&newsid=124079
instead of using his “advantage of state resources as PM ” to campaign for an ODM candidate, he did the morally upright and showed signs of integrity by only talking of the government agenda.
A great concept on very slippery ground, but executed perfectly. Kudos bwana PM
The blood of Kenyans spill after 2007 election is sacrificial blood. It was the ultimate price that was paid for the total liberation of our beloved nation. Children and women burnt in Eldore and Naivasha did not have to die in the hands of goons. The 350,000 displaced from their farms and seperated from their loved ones did not have to go through that trauma. Yet there are those intelligent people who still deeply believe that they should never go back to their lands. I understand that Kalenjin have actually ploughed and planted crops in the diplaced people’s land. Some had even occupied plots in Nairobi and refused to pay rent! Our people are crazy about free things and believe that infact that property belongs to them.
The same doctrine is being propergated in Zimbabwe and now South Africa. When Robert Mugambe advocated for chasing out of white settlers from their farms, he did not know that he was courting disaster for his country. He did not know that his people would in a way also pay for that criminal activity in another country (SA). The Kalenjin warlords may not look into the future and see a united people from other tribes retaliating for the current hate and agression.
The way the current minister of lands is handling the sensitive issue of land may blow out into a big Kenya crisis unless all the stakeholders are involved in the process. I just suggest that Hon. Orengo listen to the common people who struggle day and night just to own a piece of plot and could not afford to pay the rates and only holds allotment letters as evidence of ownership. And now Orengo declares such as absolete?
As for the Kalenjin who feel that “jimbo la Ufa” belongs to them, I suggest that permanent boundaries be drawn and for those Kalenjin in Narok and Kilgoris to move out of Maasai land and those other tribes to deep in Kalenjin land to move out and occupy the land outside this tribal Zulu group.
Has someone developed Gema Phobia?. and still waiting for salvation from Raila Amolo Odinga? Poor man!!.
The day some people will realise RAO has his own life to live and has his own issues to sort out too, they will re-discover themselves.
Whoever thinks RAO would dare risk losing the privilege of a red carpet and a fleet of escort cars, must re-think their thoughts. RAO has arrived and ODM was just but a stepping stone.
The violence and uncouth style of handling political matters earlier in the year by ODM was uncalled for. Couldn’t any of its leaders see that President MK had actually reserved cabinet posts for ODM when he only announced half of the cabinet, had intentions of a government of National Unity from the word go,had strong instincts when he & other wazees Nyachae included , formed the Party of National Unity which would eventually swallow all other parties! ODM included!. Better seek for council from the likes of MK before taking major decisions in life, to avoid ” I wish I knew”
sorry to disappoint you jane but it appears you’ve missed some choir practices. the PNU mouthpieces have stopped singing that song and currently have two new ones. the song you are singing now is so yesterday
Has someone developed Gema phobia?. Poor man!. Pole sana.
ATTEMPTS BY MEDIA TO WHITEWASH THEIR PEOPLE AND MAKE THEM LOOK LIKE ANGELS:
1. James Kanyottu is synonymous with Nyati House and torture. Media says that he could not hurt a fly.
2. Elections of 2007 were not disputed: Mwai Kibaki blatantly stole the presidency from Hon. Raila Odinga and used the military, poilice ,and mungiki to secure himself on the presdency
3. They call it POST-ELECTION VIOLENCE in an attempt to whitewash the chief architect of election fraud and executions in Kenya – Jogn Njoroge Michuki. The truth is that it should be called ELECTION FRAUD AND ITS AFTERMATH.
4. They invite you to download the “Government of Kenya Performance Evaluation Report for June 2006 to June 2007.”. The truth is that as soon as Kenyans noticed that the so-called performance evaluation report was bogus and nothing but fraud only meant to carry the message that “FOOLS ARE ONLY TO BE FOUND AMONGST KENYANS OTHER THAN GEMA PEOPLE”, they remove the report.
5. WATCH SECTIONS OF THE KENYA MEDIA. THEY MISINFORM AND BRAINWASH IN THE HOPE THAT KENYANS OTHER THAN THEIR PEOPLE ACCEPT TO SEE THEMSELVES AS INFERIOR.
6. WHY ARE THERE NO UNDERCOVER POLICE OPERATIONS IN THE NAIVASHA, LIMURU, KIRINYAGA, KARATINA, AND NAKURU AREAS OF KENYA. WHY ONLY RIFT VALLEY?
TALK OF THE PECKING ORDER.
LUCY IS BACK
AND THE SONG THEY ARE SINGING AT STATE HOUSE IS
EE BABA USILALE LALE LALE EE BABA USI LALE
LEO UTALALIWA
The Nairobi P.C has said that whereas the Mungiki sect will not be allowed to hold a rally at UHURU park , they can allow a party related to the sect to hold the prayers. He is in effect saying that they are now willing to break the law but they will bend it backwards.
Validating Mingiki as a group i warn today will lead to repurcussions that will far outweigh palepahutu (Burundi) and LRA. I wish to disagree that dialogue could lead to their watering down. What i see is that this group is now more amorphous and camaflougues itself more than the snake in the tree ready to strike. How do you explain pastor’s Njenga’s involvement in their prayers recently.
Mungiki is a creation of the govt in the following ways-
1. Failing to address the issues that affect issues pertinent to the society. E.g Employment, Social amenities – remember they were involved in the provision of water and electricity in Mathare.
2. On my way to Arusha i counted 8 roads POLICE ROAD BLOCKS betwween Nairobi and Namanga (Kenya/TZ) border. From Namanga to Arusha there was only 1 roadblock. These road blocks are usually used to extort money from the matutus and other commercial vehicles. Surely if the police men are collecting money in uniform why cant the mungiki do it to.
MUNGIKI THEN COULD BE THE NEXT ALTERNATIVE GOVT.
They will extort money from landlords and business men,
they will be able to provide security or lack of it to the citzens,
they will be able to regulate social amenities……
they will have kangaroo courts where the verdict will be final,
they will deciede your dress code on the streets,
FOR EVIL TO PREVAIL, THE ‘GOOD’NPEOPLE NEED ONLY DO nothing.
SOLUTIONS TO 3 IMPORTANT ISSUES…
1.mungiki should be crashed the way sabaot was crashed , kenya is a free
country. No any talk to them disband or arrest all of them.
2.Ban all vernacular languages , there are many ways to reserve our culture.
Moi got it right.
3.Lets be honest with ourselves ,anybody who killed,raped or burned other
other peoples property should be prosecuted……. unless we want to kill the
rule of law, it’s very unfortunate that one of the distinguished ministers
(orengo) is dead wrong on this……….no one has problem with people who
demonstrated those should be realeased…….ALL THOSE WHO KILLED IN NAIVASHA,RV SHOULD
FACE THE LAW.
…….i meant vernacular radio stations……….
TO: THE MINISTRIES OF ENERGY, INDUSTRIALIZATION< AND HIGHER EDUCATION:
SUBJECT: DOMESTIC ENERGY
I request the ministry of energy to create a new departmnent to be called the Department of Domestic Energy, which will be responsible for overseeing the use of charcoal as a domestic source of energy and for finding alternatives to the use of charcoal especially in rural areas.
I request the ministries of energy, industry, and higher education, science, and technology to launch a collaborative together with the Kenyan universities and KIRDI to research and develop alternative sources to wood or wood charcoal, the preferred source of energy in rural Kenya.
I request the ministry of energy to create a new parastatal similar to KEMRI and KIRDI and which may be called Kenya Domestic Energy Research Institute (KEDERI).
The only way wood and wood charcoal can become visible and an ongoing concern for the government of Kenya will be through KEDERI.
Why have we missed the whole Amensty issue here.
My Brother KK, there is no way on this earth, RAO and the others will stake their reputations by advocating the release of those who burned, murdered,raped and terrorised people.
I feel that the Media is somehow distorting the issue, they have completed applied a one size fits all on this issue, and as ODM we have not forcefully come out to put our side of the argument.
Can we get Lone and the rest of the ODM communications team on this to ensure we do not get misunderstood on this issue. Nyongo made a valiant atttempt in Today’s Nation in an interview and I urge you all to read and understand.
What many miss is that they were a lot of youth who merely protested, perhaps engaged police in running battles and were arrested. I’m quite certain this is the cohort of people that ODM demands should be released. Hence the Cabinet resolved to classify the degree of charges and those on petty charges be looked into quickly.
So please let those of us who are ODM supporters first understand exactly what it is that we stand for on this issue and not be swayed by the mis characterisation of our position.
I love the Fact that the KHRC actually backed our view recently by saying that they were against blanket amensty but were for those arrested on petty charges to be released.
YES, RECONCILIATION AND RECONCILIATION
It is loud and clear – the call for genuine reconciliation – in Kenya. Every Kenyan wants peace and unity in their country. Kenyans need justice in their country.
Kibaki is the one Kenyan leader who holds the master key to the doors of reconciliation, justice, and unity in Kenya. If he wants to, he can use that key to open the doors of reconciliation, justice, and unity.
Kenyans are ready to put the events of the just-concluded elections and forge ahead but Kibaki has to be with all Kenyans in this journey.
It hurts and hardens the hearts and resolve of Kenyans to continue in a fighting mood when they are looked upon. The millions of Kenyans who voted for Hon. Raila Odinga to be the president need respect and this respect can only be given to them if and only if:
PM RAILA ODINGA IS GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY AND SPACE TO EXECUTE THE OFFICE OF THE PM AS PER THE CONSTITUTION OF KENYA. IT ANGERS PM RAILA ODINGA’S MIILIONS OF SUPPORTERS TO SEE THE PM BEING IGNORED BY MERE MINISTERS.
Kibaki should also take this opportunity to do his part by retiring his friends who are past retirement age and ensuring that all minsitries, including the ministry of finanace, reflect the true face of Kenya.
Kenyans are an informed and educated lot and a quote from Jomo Kenyatta cannot fool them. The quote is:
“”Kenyatta has no intention of retaliation or looking backwards, we are going to forget the past and look forward. I have suffered imprisonment and detention but that is gone and I am not going to remember it. Let us join hands and work for the benefit of Kenya, not for the benefit of one particular community…” said the late President.”
Kenyans know very well that what Jomo Kenyatta said in this quote is not what he ended up doing. Most of his Cabinet ministers came from his tribe and home district and Jomo Kenyatta grabbed lots of land for himself and his people.
MWAI KIBAKI, YOU HOLD THE KEYS TO RECONCILIATION AND UNITY OF KENYA. USE THEM AND DO NOT LET OTHERS KEEP THEM AWAY FROM YOU.
President Julius Nyerere may not have developed his country to match Kenya’s economic growth but he gave his people of Tanzania one great gift – UNITY. President Jakaya Kikwete was only a young man during Nyerere’s presidency but he is now using the legacy Nyerere left for his people to build his country.
TANZANIA IS A UNITED AND STABLE COUNTRY. I BELIEVE THAT THE NUMBER OF DEATHS, AT THE HANDS OF FELLOW CITIZENS OR GOVERNMENT FORCES, IN TANZANIA CANNOT BE MORE THAN 50. IN KENYA, THE NUMBER OF DEATHS, AT THA HANDS OF FELLOW CITIZENS OR GOVERNMENT SECURITY FORCES, IS OVER 5,000 (OVER 1500 IN THE 1982 COUP ATTEMPT AND OVER 2000 (ELECTION AND MT. ELGON) THIS YEAR.
Kenya is a country massacring herself. This is not good for the future of Kenya.
IF MWAI KIBAKI CAN STEP BACK AND TAKE A QUIET MOMENT AND PUT KENYA FIRST, HE CAN ACHIEVE A LOT FOR KENYA. THERE IS NO NEED TO WASTE TIME AND EFFORT TRYING TO STOP HON. RAILA ODINGA FROM BECOMING THE PRESIDENT OF KENYA. HE IS UNSTOPPABLE.
I am told that some Gema activists are exploring ways of reviving Gema-Kamatusa with a view to stopping Hon. Raila Odinga from taking the presidency.
They will not succeed.
strike 1
http://www.nationmedia.com/dailynation/nmgcontententry.asp?category_id=1&newsid=124527
as expected a decision by an ODM minister can be rescinded by the president in a roadside announcement
still not sure what will happen if a minister either from ODM or PNU is found to be uncooperative by the other side and some action is required for which RAO and MK are not agreed on, what conflict resolution method is in place. At least for now we know that PNU mandarins can hive off departments
lets wait for strike 2
All is not lost. The British diplomat put it right on the money- Kenya is a country that thrives in impunity and lawlessness. I do not think we can heal by sweeping under the carpet the issue of violence. When the orange revolution in Ukraine came to power, they simply did a difiant seat in and embarassed the government of the day. In Kenya, the Orange revolution was about torture, killing, maiming, destruction of property and sabotage. That is the way revolutions in Africa happen. No wonder the whole world looks down upon us.
When somebody says that killers or those facing capital offense did nothing wrong, one is left wondering whatever happened to our human side. The only way to discourage this from ever happening again is for the total re-training and re-deployment of tribal police forces and prosecuting the killers whoever they are. The only force that remain detribalized is the Kenyan military. Otherwise the police force let Kenyans down by openly siding wit their political tribes.
Railka
good well thought out points
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back to strike 2
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7431175.stm
All,
Some people argue that Raila did the patriotic thing by joining hands with Kibaki to form Grand Coalition Government. As I said in February when Kofi Annan was in Kenya, ODM should never have negotiated with electoral thieves. Thieves don’t change overnight, they will always be thieves so why legitimize their stealing?
Realistically where would Kenya be had Raila (ODM) REFUSED to negotiate with Kibaki (PNU)?
It is obvious that the death toll would have climbed to probably 3,000 people.
It is obvious that RV, Nyanza, Western and other non GEMA zones would have been thoroughly cleansed.
It is obvious that the international community would have come clean and either asked Kibaki to step aside, have a new elections or to the cynical ones; the international community would have left us alone to sort out our differences.
Had Raila (ODM) REJECTED any attempts to negotiate, Kenya would have been on the RIGHT path towards full democracy. ODM (Raila) set a very bad precedent for legitimizing future electoral thieves. Had Raila refused to compromise the voices of electorates, our next leader would THINK TWICE before attempting to rig elections. I say this because GEMA chauvinists would have been squashed once and for all. I say this because I know that overwhelming majority of Kenyans would have FOUGHT until the last man standing to DEFEND our democracy. Only had Raila REJECTED any attempts to negotiate with thieves.
Raila (ODM) had the goodwill of the people and this is what actually matters in competitive politics. Raila is now reaping the fruits of his weakness on the negotiating table. He should have never been on that table to begin with, and he should have told the Annan Team to fck-off if they were going to recommend a thief as our President. Raila was just a few inches away from entering the State House, now he is a thousand miles trying to walk a journey to the unknown.
I am pissed off today just the same way I was pissed off when Kibaki stole the elections
LETS BE CAREFUL WITH FREEDOM…..
YOUTHS IN JAIL……
This issue is very delicate and people should approach it with civility……
I would like to ask the following questions……
1. In the new kenya you can kill , rape , burn other people properties because of
elections. Is this what we are teaching our young people?
Is this the new way of agitating for our democracy?
If it is the new way then after each elections be prepared for killings of even
your loved ones .
2.Somebody is not telling the truth at first we heard that killings and raping
were as a result of land injustice.
kenyans why do we forget so fast ,lets start asking the hard questions.
3.As for the policemen and eck ,why can’t we wait fo the phillip commision
and then decide who the culprits were,then we can prosecute them.
4.As for those who says they know who financed the mayhem then come out
and name them………BUT stop equating that to the reason why the
muderers should be granted amnesty….
We may as well realease all prisoners even on death row….
NB…..This issue is the yardstick of how mature this coaliation is…and it
might be the breaking point ……..only time will tell….
TNK,
According to you there “Kenya people” and “Gema”. I thank you for exposing what was up your sleeves- to cleanse the Kikuyu from other parts of Kenya. I thank you because to you there are those who are sacred cows even when they kill. Even Jomo Kenyatta and other Kenyan heroes had to spend time in jail.
As for your above view, may it be stated clearly here that Kikuyus and Kisiis were killed in RV, Nyanza and parts of Western Province. Luos and a few were murdered in Nairobi, Naivasha and Nakuru. The idea that you can kill 7 million Kikuyus or push them to the preriphery is a fallacy of the highest order. If you think you can start another “civil War”, to force the government to take action, then be prepared for all you have said above. But then not as you may think- it may be worse and affect you as well. The government must stand firm on prosecuting these thugs whatever their status in life. And if they have to release any thugs, then Kenyans jails must be cleaned by releasing all those in jails whatever their crimes.
As for the issue of whether an election was stolen or not, let the judge from SA bring out the evindence not third rate bloggers.
WIRING KENYA TODAY FOR EXPLOSION TOMORROW:
This is how you do it:
1. The constitution of Kenya prescribes that there will a PM and indeed there is a PM but you, as the one in control of security forces and hence having the upper hand, do everything to ensure that the PMO is for decoration purposes and to attract funds
2. Your man calls a press conference to announce that the suspects who torched a church in Eldoret and burned people alive have been apprehended and indeed the supects appear in court BUT then there is no other press conference to announce that the other suspects (who happen to be members of your tribe) who also roasted people to death have been apprehended and no such suspects have ever appeared in court
3. Your man authors a report which you call a performance evaluation BUT then it turns out, under scrutiny, that the report is not a performance evaluation report but a reprimand of former ministers (NOT from your tribe) who did not win their seats for your PNU party. Under further srutiny, it turns out that you obviously decided that the ministers from your tribe who lost their seats could not be reprimanded since the seats went to PNU anyways
4. You invent a new phrase to replace the english word “extortion”. Your phrase which has replaced the word, extortion, is “SURRENDER IN EXCHANGE FOR AMNESTY”. Obviously, your greedy men are devouring ferocioulsy before the man you all hate and would do everything to stop him from the presidency takes over
5. You have the whole world of opportunity and the goodwill of the people of Kenya and the international community to unite and rebuild Kenya BUT then it turns out that you are a prisoner to your pals and your ism, which is founed on tribalism and greed
6. Once upon a time, you were a great son of Kenya. You never used to consider ethnicity as a basis for anything BUT now it is the driving force for all you do. Operating under a parochial view of Kenya, you attempt to move on but all you can achieve is to move in circles
7. You used one man from western Kenya and drove his once-promising political party to near oblivion BUT you do not have any use for him anymore and you now have another one whom you are using to create every obstacle possible for the PM to execute his office.
8. The retired president is on record as having reacted with an ear-rendering shout of “PTHOO” (You need the sound you make when you act as if you are spitting out something without actually discahrging any spittle) after the retired president was told that the man (the new man you are using now) wanted to become Kenya’s president
9. If you can only have a glimpse of the “KENYA OF TOMORROW” that your “KENYA OF TODAY” will birth, you will shudder. For the Kenya of tomorrow to be great, unite and reconcile the Kenya of today. Forget about economic growth and make your number priority to be PEACE, LOVE, and UNITY in Kenya.
10. You stop wiring Kenya for explosion tomorrow if you make the rule of law and justice your guiding pillars as you lead. There cannot be justice in Kenya if the minister who is supposedly in charge of justice and reconciliation was one of the strategists and commanders of the mungiki forces.
11. The civil service regulations demand that individuals who are past 55 years of age must retire. You set aside this requirement and let your men (incidentally you do not sem to care much about your women) enjoy and clog the wheels of progress even authoring shams and shams of so-called “performance reports”.
In setting aside the requirements of the civil service, you are in essence making nonsense of the rule of law and you are telling the world that your people are special.
TODAY, SHUFFLE YOUR CABINET AND APPOINT A NEUTRAL INDIVIDUAL TO BE THE MINISTER OF JUSTICE. The Nairobi Metro guy IS GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME.
Please, when will politicians give the majority of Kenyans who do not care politics a break?. Today is non-sense amnesty debate for the uncouth boys and girls who thought Kenya thrives in anarchy before and after the 2007 general elections.
The worrying issue is; if ODM was given the justice portfolio, or took over the leadership of the country, would all these so called the ‘boys’ ; the murderers, arsonists,killers,looters,thieves be set free?. Would Kenya have turned into a place under the rule of the jungle?
With ODM behaviour of using violence even in resolving small issues like who speaks before who or who sits where, would ODM have let loose these ‘boys’ to terrorise the targeted tribe left and right, forcefully take over their land, houses, wives, husbands, cats, dogs,businesses, cows?. It’s chilling. Only the violent would think of an odm government. Its chilling.
Railka
is there any reason why you attribute comments made by someone else to me? or are you just trying to provoke some reaction from me?
ODM
You are sleeping while PNU is planning to win all 5 by elections on june 11th , are the official limos too comfortable that you have slumbered?, you need to campaign agressively to stay relevant and also to have a majority lead in oparliament , wake up odm wake up , bado mapambano
obama is half way there. found it amusing that in western kenya as i heard in the BBC some guys were having problems pronouncing ILLINOIS hahaha. kibaki and cronies spoilt it for us BY STEALING THE ELECTIONS. WE HAD HOPED FOR RAILA AND OBAMA 2008.
Right now there wud be no talk of Amnesty, Kriegler Commision, I.D.PS indeed Inflation would be at an all time low, there would be bloated Cabinet……….lakini sawa………Kuishi kwa ngombe faraja ya Kupe.
TNK,
I apologize for mistaking you with Kip. I have always thought most of the time you are a gentleman of high intelligence -though we have areas of disagreement especially on tribalism and how to solve the Kenya political, social and economi crisis. I am more moderate while you and your cohorts are on the extreme left.
Lastly, we all applaude Barrack Obama for the campaign well run. I am abit pessimistic whether white Americans will prefer him over McCain. Maybe he will pull another one with a viable running mate who at the same time will not overshadow him.
Below is a mail that has been doing rounds, Thot i shud share it wid u.
On Madaraka day I watched with amazement as President Mwai Kibaki
stood before Kenyans and announced with a straight face that the
perpetrators of post-election violence be prosecuted. His chutzpah and
continued impunity speaks for the contempt he has for Kenyans. But
because of the venue and the importance of the day he chose to spit in
our faces, I have to loudly wonder about who makes the list of his
perpetrators. About two weeks ago I gave my list. Here it is:
1. Mwai Kibaki
The leading culprit in the election drama is President Kibaki himself.
If you wonder what crimes he committed, I’m glad to list them .
a. Mwai Kibaki plotted at the State house and at other venues across
kenya to systematically manufacture votes on the 27th of December
2007. That act of vote manufacturing is criminal and should be
punished under the statues that govern elections in Kenya.
b. Mwai Kibaki, together with associates, ordered the Kenya Police and
other forces under his command to quell post-election fracas by using
illegitimate force, resulting in the death of innocent Kenyans. Again,
that act of such abuse of authority is punishable under the statues
that govern the powers vested on the executive branch of the
government of Kenya.
c. Mwai Kibaki, the man Kenyans elected in 2002 to protect them,
watched with contempt as Kenya burned. At the very least he abdicated
the duty Kenyans gave him to ensure the nation was secure within and
without its borders. A competent court of law should try and ascertain
whether this man had lost the capacity to govern the nation, leading
to the death of thousands of Kenyans or get to the bottom of the
decision-making that led to the criminally slow response of the
government as the nation went up in smoke.
d. Finally, we all watched the hurried and haphazard manner the
swearing-in ceremony was conducted. No national anthem. No ambassadors
and representatives from Kenya’s friends. If you ask me, these are the
actions of a man who has defrauded a nation. That is a crime, last
time I checked.
2. John Michuki
This man was the Internal Security minister. We now have indication
that he used his powers in a manner that led to the death of many
Kenyans. For there to be any semblance of fairness in the way justice
is administered, this man should be tried so that the legality of his
actions can be put under scrutiny. Moreover, it should be established
if the shoot-to-kill order that led to the massacre of Kenyans in
Kisumu and Naivasha came from this man. If it did, he has a case to
answer.
3. Uhuru Kenyatta
There were allegations that this son of the nation’s founding father
was given the task to fund-raise for the Mungiki. To the extent that
such allegations are out there, it is important for those who have
evidence against the man to come forward and be given a chance to
testify against him. If he is innocent, he should be cleared of these
allegations. If he is guilty, the nation has an obligation to its
citizen to prove that justice is blind.
4. General M. H. Ali
The cops killed. He was their leader. It’s as simple as that.
Again, Fellow Kenyans, that’s my list. But to hear Kibaki’s utterances
yesterday, you’d think some boys from Western Province and the Rift
Valley plotted to bring down his government. Has it ever occurred to
him that he was the one who plotted to bring down the government these
youths voted for? He may have the power to prosecute these youths now,
but is that the best way to make us forget about his own crimes? Just
like he insists on prosecution for our brothers and sisters across
Western Kenya and the Rift Valley, should we insist that one day when
he leaves power he must also face the law at the Hague for crimes
against humanity?
We all need to come to an agreement that reconciliation is important
for the nation. That all are created equal. That we are all in this
together. If we can agree on such basic premises, then we can agree as
a nation to forgive Kibaki and his murderous gang, just like he must
lead the nation in forgiving and cleansing our sons and daughters of
their sins. It’s as simple as that.
If that can’t be achieved, take the bullshit about reconciliation to the dogs.
What Can I do?
This is what happened.
People went ahead to maim and kill others from other tribe in parts of Rift Valley where Kalenjins are the majority, like in Eldoret.
In return other people went ahead to maim and kill people from other tribe in parts of Rift Valley where Kikuyus are majority, like in Naivasha ans Nakuru.
Then since the government was in the hands of people whose tribesmen were in Eldoret, then government went ahead to sent police to arrest those invollved on these killings in these parts of Eldoret, but ignored sending troops to arrest those involved in killings in parts of Naivasha.
In the end we have two groups of people who were involved in killings. One group has majority in prison awaiting final judgement while the other are in their comfort of theor homes, knowing very well that nothing will ever happen to them.
This makes me ask myself, if I find two thieves, arrest one because he doesn’t come from my tribe and live the other one, then who is wrong between the three of us. My answer to my question is that we are all wrong.
My next question then becomes, so what should be done to all of us. My next answer becomes, the two of us who are free should be arrested and persecuted together with the third one.
But then my next question becomes, if the two of us cannot be arrested then what should we do? This is the time a fourth person needs to enter the picture. This fourth person is us.
Let us rally for the arrest of George Saitoti e.t.c and look for ways of arresting also those involved in violence in Nakuru, Naivasha and Limuru e.t.c. Let us also rally for the arrest of all police involved in killings in Kisumu e.t.c. Then all of them, I mean those in prison and those in comfort of their homes now, be sent to court.
In other words it’s wrong for justice to be done for selected wrongdoers and it’s also wrong for justice not to be done to wrongdoers.
Thank you all for your insightful posts.